New eFreeze point system
Section: EFREEZE Mod | Started by: atrey | Date: 13/04/2007 18:13

Let's design how to count scores in the eFreeze game.


The idea came from Impiro. I think this would be much more interesting when the player score will be not just thaws + frags, but with addition of the usefulness of each thaw/frag.

As a start I suggest to categorize all the moments which can be taken into account.


I see:


- Fraggin of an enemy player which is not the last active in the enemy team.


- Fraggin of an enemy player which is the last active in the enemy team.


- Thawing of a mate being the last active in the team.


- Thawing of a mate being not the last active in the team.


- Fragging several enemies in a certain time interval.


- Thawing several mates in a certain time interval.


Refere to impiro post in 1.31 efreeze section: id love that rail kill all enemy in 1 shot: now its just up to 2X, would that be possible?
IMO we shouldn't change game rules

leave it as it is now

Freezeinstaunlagged was enough for everyone and it hasnt got some extra frags etc...

U won't find skilled guys when someone thawed a few ppl and he received 3x5frags in a few secs.

Dunno how None, but i will never accept it.
Noone gonna change rules. Just change the way how score is counted personally for everyone. What's so frightening? People should know which action is more important and try to do as more as he can. That will learn ppl team playing.
Who told you? :)

damn i wanted reply yesteday but site gave me sql error :)


Ppl won't learn it as they didnt do when we had freezedt thaws style

im and probably a lot of ppl are playing this mod cause they like settings which are set now.


Probably most ppl know that, i prefer more freezeinstaunlagged than efreeze ( cause of nooby hook there ) but i accepted
it. This change probably make me back to freezeinstaunlagged mod.

I just don't get you Adam.


It's just a score in the table. No rules is gonna be chanhed.


Thing is that your score will be not a simple summ of thaws and frags, but something more complex which appreciate how usefull you were during a game.


What is wrong with it?

what about another "value" on the scoreboard like accuracy added then - "efficiency" or smth. like that (in % or points)


i would love to hear the "accuracy" sound of instant death mod. maybe when one killed 3 persons in 10 secs or smth.


 


over all, i have to be more on adam's site. "noobs/newbies/not-so-good-players" - who are just playing this game to relax a bit, spam or cheating - won't ever get the idea of the game, no matter how you change scoring. those who play this game more seriously know how important these frags/thaws are without any reference from the scoreboard.


teamplay will NEVER be in public gaming - the only chance is to get rid of all score counting! Just show the teampoints! what about that? But this you will never accept 'cause everyone's chasing only for score in public. moreover "noobs/newbies/not-so-good-players" won't take time to go into much teamplay in public - this moment has past years


sorry for my negative view of things, but i think i have a point here...


abz

the other way is to make counters like how many ppl u fragged/thawed when u were last, but to check it player should type in console something like /+myluck or something :)


if i receive +5frags to general frag counter i won't know how i did it ( my super luck or i just thawed somebody )
No. I think we should leave the frag and the thaw counters alone. Just enter a new score counter which will take into count all the beneficial moments along with frag and thaw counts.
hmm... maybe im wrong but it will make mess on scoreboard ( if u want add more than 2 additional counters )
There will be one additional counter. And with the previous two there will be three counter overall (score, frags, thaws).
Good ideas, but I think you should use the freezeDT 'winners stay frozen'
this is what I mean:

Blue team Scores!!!! the frozen guys from blue team remain frozen until the blue team thaws them, or red team wins.
That would make team play a little more interesting.
I think you should think twice before you dismiss my idea.

It can be made as an option. However, we discuss here how scores are counted.


Mutant1 Told :
Good ideas, but I think you should use the freezeDT 'winners stay frozen'
this is what I mean:

Blue team Scores!!!! the frozen guys from blue team remain frozen until the blue team thaws them, or red team wins.
That would make team play a little more interesting.
I think you should think twice before you dismiss my idea.

Posted on 20 April 2007 at 09:47:49



we already tried this option and this doesnt work... ppl complain and ble ble ble
adam*pl Told :
Mutant1 Told :
Good ideas, but I think you should use the freezeDT 'winners stay frozen'
this is what I mean:

Blue team Scores!!!! the frozen guys from blue team remain frozen until the blue team thaws them, or red team wins.
That would make team play a little more interesting.
I think you should think twice before you dismiss my idea.

Posted on 20 April 2007 at 09:47:49



we already tried this option and this doesnt work... ppl complain and ble ble ble

Posted on 20 April 2007 at 14:15:16


People complained because for most of the time they stayed frozen. That was a bit boring ;-) I don't really want to see it working again...

sorry, but who complained? noobs, score-players?! This one of the options, as mutant stated, that would make the game more team-based, not score based. they all only complained, because they get less score while they are frozen longer!


I like this option and I would like to see it again! In time, they will get used to it!


The same thing is custom maps. on weed server it works better and better! many more people have the custom maps from the map-packs now - it is sooooooooooooooooooooo much better! My score sucks on custom maps, why? because I don't know the spawn-points. There is far less spawn-fraggin' which people complain about, too. But yet again people complain because they can't good scores themselves, because of this reason.


Why do we experienced players listen to them? The game should be made, as admins, old, experienced players & the major clans like it! We made this mod what it is now! The others will adopt, I am sure!


Think about it!


abz

a lot of ppl, when i played 80percent of ppl on server was shouting: adam turn off tihs gay thawstyle


I personally dont like it too, becouse i prefer to play clan arena or sth if im frozen 2minutes.

ok, how long are people frozen 'till autothaw at the moment? if you lower it, games will take longer - but does it help the teamplay? I think not...
absinthe Told :

sorry, but who complained? noobs, score-players?! This one of the options, as mutant stated, that would make the game more team-based, not score based. they all only complained, because they get less score while they are frozen longer!


abz


Posted on 22 April 2007 at 11:18:04


About 70-80% of players that i know including me ;-) You're right, game is more team-based then but it simply doesn't work on 'free games'. Most players still play on their own and the only thing that keeps them in team are thaws. It might work on clanwars, but it seems unfair in there.