eFreeze-1.1
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EFREEZE Mod |
Started by: atrey |
Date: 07/04/2007 13:12
Hey folks!
You all know that there were no subsequent official versions since efreeze-1.02 has come out.
But community requires the mod to be upgraded.
I asked NoNE to share the sources and he gave them to me.
Since that moment I started implementing a new feature - enemy/team models. And finally finished it.
I suggest you to test it for a while and if it is good/acceptable, we can set it on our servers.
Sinse a new feature was implemented I incremented version of the mod. Now it is 1.1. Also, there is third number in version, which mean some bugfixes were applied to initial revision.
The new mod you can download from ftp://n3-clan.com/pub/efreeze-1.1/
Please, post encountered bugs into this topic or on my mail: dbazhenov@rambler.ru
Hope, You'll engoy forced model benefits as I do. 
Let's decide what else to add into efreeze-1.1 and make release.
idea: when u change team, ur score isnt reseted to 0.
idea 2# fix reconnect limit?
maybe a possibility to turn off those voicesay thingies? Some newblets use them way too much and thats very annoying, or is there already such a command?
ef_novoice and press tab 
server side demos - server is recoring demo from every pov
Well to add my 2 cent here as i'm rarely replying lately ...
as for the scoring system u were talking about, it's not such a bad idea, but 5 points for something like killing the last enemy, or thawing someone when u're the last one alive is just freakin' too much, u really count that as such a high skill?? c'mon ... maybe 2 instead of 1 points (as a bonus) is enough ...
"ef_drawPlayersWarning" needs to be fixed atrey (maybe variable should also be renamed to something better), i made it in the way with the function which checks if a person is frozen (can't remember it atm, Q_isfrozen() ??), but looks like there comes to some problems ... i think it works perfect only with like max 5 or 6 players, so maybe there can be a bug in function itself, don't remember details anymore ...
Next thing is the protection for that say/vsay overflow which crashes the server ... made a fix for it already, we just need to implement it ...
The bot adam was talking about can be included in cheat protection for .31 servers (.32 ban these anyway)
As for the enemy models and colours, the default green colour in quake is a lot darker than the one OSP has on char 'e' (is it on e?), so maybe u can play a bit with RGB colours to get the brigther green and put it on 'e' char or '2' or on both or somewhere else ..
I was informed that the ad_mute command doesn't always work properly .. it always worked for me, maybe u can check if u can find what bothers some ...
oh ev, u said once about some bigger fonts in scoreboard, try the default one by setting /ef_scoreboard to 0 ..
Now to the adam's things:
adam*pl Told :
idea: when u change team, ur score isnt reseted to 0.
i don't mind this one, can do more good than harm ... i think ppl won't mind to switch teams to make the balance ... should score stays (and accu and other things) for that map even if u join spectators? or just when switching teams, e.g. from red to blue???
idea 2# fix reconnect limit?
no way to influence this one ... it's coded in quake itself, ID says it should work properly on .32 and not on .31 ... we can't do anything about this in the mod ...
server side demos - server is recoring demo from every pov
as far as i know this is another impossible thing to do ... MOD can't get enough info to create such demos ... maybe only if /record command (is there any other?) works on server side, haven't tried that out, then it could be done something about it ... otherwise no way .. yet u can't load clientside of the mod (where this is possible) when running quake as server ...
about score reset:
only blue/red changing
about server side demos:
check ufreeze
we're already using it in league, demo from 4v4 15 minutes match was about 10mb, but we can choose which pov we want to watch
and next thing: on ufreeze u can switch povs when u're on gtv
what about the osp spectator mod.? a shame you can't set a reconnect limit!!!!!!!! can you set a name restriction: like: "emtpy name" "." " that all this shit doesnt work anymore?
ah and models! please copy the models from another mod. ufreeze or smth! the ones used in the version i saw was just one coloured mass. that is so ugly that it spoils all my fun in this game. I would suggest at least some models that look like the original. please please please! if this will be the version we'll play if it is out, i cant play months with just blurry shapes as enemies...
I may repeat myself but..what about fragging more than 2 ppl in 1 shot?
true i wanna be able to say *fiver!* instead of 2fer! =]
ganja did tripple shot, so what's wrong?
Well if ufreeze has it, then there should be some kind of existing command in quake itself which does that, i cannot see how it could be done without it ...
well he couldn't do triple shot as it's coded to stop when second player is hit, but sure, rail can be done to go through as much as it's set or there just ain't a limit (just till it hit something concrete (wall/ground, ..))
atrey maybe do a "to do" list with most stuff we mentioned in the first post of this topic, so we see what was already said and later do any X at things which are done ...
ah u're right, i watched demo again and third person was killed by someone other <: D
"no, we don't answer abz" 
anyway doesn't anyone care how the models look like? I don't wanna play "space invaders" or "who is afraid of the black man?" but quake....
yeh andi, ure right too;P
i dont like bad textures, ( the reason why im playing on picmip 0 ) but i still can play on normal models )
It doesnt make bigger diff for me
absinthe Told :
what about the osp spectator mod.? a shame you can't set a reconnect limit!!!!!!!! can you set a name restriction: like: "emtpy name" "."
" that all this shit doesnt work anymore?
Maybe describe the osp spectator mode a bit more? 
i don't have it nor i wanna download it , but if it's that u can't spec others when u're in spectators, that's just sux ...
well empty names can be done in several ways ... if atrey has time i don't see any obstacles, it's just time consumpting
About the models, well give a guy some credit for making progress with 'em .. with a bit efford, they sure can be similar to what osp has ...
and another idea, (just) grapple could always be unlagged ... this way 60+ ping won't effect u nor if u start lagging ..
anyway, i'm off to coast for 2 weeks, cya later ..
maybe artrey knows it...
you have 3 different views on players in osp: chase came, free float, 3rd person. chase cam and free float is the same as in efreeze. 3rd person is an additional view. cg_thirdperson 1/0 is the command for playing that. you can easily switch between all these modes of spectation.
about names: maybe it is just my opinion, but everyone should a least have a descent name. I hate when 3 "unnamed players" are in the map. I dont like ; .; ,; :] ... or any names like that either. can't adress the player when talking and it is disrespectful to the other players.
As I said, models should be more like the original ones in q3. it's just much more fun then!!!
TODO:
* DrawPlayerWarning (server/client bug).
* say/vsay overflow (server bug).
* ad_mute malfunction (server bug - fixed).
* Change team without score reset (server option).
* Name restriction (server option).
* Reconnect limit (server option).
* Correct model colors/skins (pak-files).
* Arbitrary thaw sound.
* Watching demos from an arbitrary pov (client feature).
* 3d-person spec (client option).
* Freezed spec (client option).
* Pause/timeout command (server feature).
* New score system (server option).
* Unlagged grapple (server option).
* Customizable scoreboard (client feature).
MUltiple frag in 1 shot.
Also some bugs to fix:
-Vsay make anotherone speak than myself ???
-Rcon status doesnt show all players and fails to show the right identification number (for 24 players server with private clients at least)
I have to use The All-seeing eye for rcon =/
pSylle Told :
MUltiple frag in 1 shot.
Also some bugs to fix:
-Vsay make anotherone speak than myself ???
You mean you issue a Vsay and server shows like it was issued by another player?
-Rcon status doesnt show all players and fails to show the right identification number (for 24 players server with private clients at least)
I have to use The All-seeing eye for rcon =/
Need to check it on efreeze-1.1. It might be fixed already.
For the moment I can say that I can make enemy/team models as they are done in CPMA.
I got another idea. I play since long and with headphones, and i can recognize people by skin... many players do that and that is why i never used forcemodel. But green color is nice to spot enemies so--> would it be possible to just use green color without forcing models?
we're getting close to a "wallhack" configuration, but since many cheat i guess that's ok
Thats just skin color i mentionned. Seeing though walls must be so boring imo.
2pSylle
When I'll make the CPMA-like models, this will be possible.
Is it still possible to have empty names?
i think on 1.31 yes. on 1.32 with pb no! adam could configurate the 1.32 server (as we tried to move) that kick names with swear words, or ., ,,
, was very cool, cause i hate fake players with stupid names!
Hey folks!
I have issued a new beta version of efreeze-1.1.
It has:
* Fixed bug when an enemy has the teammate model (need testing though).
* Skins now can be forced without forcing models (pSylle - it's for you).
* CPMA-like skins.
Download the update mod from: ftp://n3-clan.com/pub/efreeze-1.1/
I placed there EFREEZE-HOWTO.txt. Read it before using CPMA models.
you have vertex light switched on.
CPMA models don;t work with vertex light.
/seta r_vetexLight 0
/vid_restart
uuuu that's bad :/
k i checked models on lightmap and they're ok. But still the question is: why it doesnt work on vertex light?
That I call a good quiestion!
I don't know. Need to check if it works in CPMA with vertexlight set to 1.
will ftp be private?
I can restrict access to the efreeze folder if required.
Hi guys. It's been time since my last progress report.
Several recent weeks I investigated that nasty thing with shooting. For ones who don't know what the thing is: the aiming point in the recent efreeze-1.1 became different in compare with the same in efreeze-1.02 which was not good. So, I played with some parameters and determined correction which makes shooting and aiming as it used to be (I hope at least).
Now I started to think about making the 3-d person view for spectators, but encountered that on 1.32 punkbuster switches off it after about 0.1 sec. If I find a way to fight with pb I'll inmplement this feature.
Also, I started thinking about demos with ability to play it from different views. I encountered that each client doesn't receive all the world information from the server, only about those player which are near to the client (or player which is followed by the client). So, it is evident, that to play demo from different views, it is required to receive all the information. I started investigation how to achieve this.
If some1 thinks that I shall switch to tasks of a higher priority than I do, he is kindly asked to state them
Bug fixes:
- enemy has the teammate skin - fixed
since your all talking about 1.32/punkbuster i thought id say i can't no longer play on 1.32 at this point in time because it kicks me after about 20 seconds for losing packets =\
I'm not the only one this has happened to, I heard miurek and some others talking about it in the public server once... so whats up with this?
Do you speak about FraggedNation eFreeze server?
For the moment it runs the old efreeze-1.02. So, the problem is rather in pb itself than in the mod. Or, you have bad connections to the server.
Maybe there is an essence to modify pb configuration in order to remove this problem (if it is possible).
evolution Told :
since your all talking about 1.32/punkbuster i thought id say i can't no longer play on 1.32 at this point in time because it kicks me after about 20 seconds for losing packets =\
I'm not the only one this has happened to, I heard miurek and some others talking about it in the public server once... so whats up with this?
Posted on 26 July 2007 at 10:25:09
you need PnkBstrA.exe and PnkBstrB.exe running , if you dont have you are kicked !
Some other software programs such as virus scanners, firewalls and Internet security software packages are suspicious of any new services and kernel drivers when they are first released. Some of these will block our new components thereby causing the "Losing Key Packets" kicking. Until these various packages are updated to correctly identify PnkBstrA.exe, PnkBstrB.exe, and PnkBstrK.sys as components of the PunkBuster Anti-Cheat System, players who experience PunkBuster kicks due to these conflicts need to either manually adjust the settings of the other software running on their system or disable the other software while playing on PunkBuster enabled servers. The new PunkBuster components make use of network resources and also frequently update files in the Windows system folders. This activity triggers warnings or blocks by some other security programs, some of which consider all unknown programs as threats or malware. Our new components are simply extensions of the existing PunkBuster system using new services and kernel software drivers, and are each signed with Verisign / Authenticode digital signatures for verifiable authenticity purposes. Most major security packages do not block our new components; users with other software that causes these conflicts should contact the vendor of their security package and request an update to correct this conflict.
FIX:
1. Click on the start menu, click on Run.... Type services.msc.
2. Under services find PnkBstrA. Right click it and stop it from the option in the drop-down menu.
3. Now double click it. On startup type select disabled.
4. Repeat 2 and 3 for PnkBstrB.
4. Go to your windows/system32 folder.
5. Find the two files, PnkBstrA.exe and PnkBstrB.exe and delete them.
6. Go to AA/system/pb folder.
7. Delete PnkBstrB.exe and PnkBstrK.
8. Go to http://www.evenbalance.com/ind...tup.php and download the pbsetup for your operating system.
9. Install. Select game directory and update PB.
http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=pbsvcfaq.php
I asked if we can keep enemymodel forced to 0 but all green, did you had an eye on it?
pSylle Told :
I asked if we can keep enemymodel forced to 0 but all green, did you had an eye on it?
Posted on 27 July 2007 at 00:16:28
It has been implemented. Check it out from the 1.1.5 version.
i'll try it out tomorrow sairs, thanx =)
Couple of screenshots of upcoming mod.
One more!
Nice, it's starting to look pretty well now. Where I can download the latest mod version?
get a new rail sound to, when someone gets railed.
like on cpma for example, it sounds better.
we should have some of that sexy snow falling from the sky like that nub mod ufreeze has aswell, it will be shithot come christmas time! =D
And what about thaw sound? is it still takjr jumps, because i force models to tankjr and it doesnt help.
pSylle, can u tell what sound to use or give me a new one? And I will insert it in the mod.
As for the snowfall, I'll think about it
Atm all scheduled tasks for release are complete. And we start its extensive testing. If all proceed with success, we will make a release in a week.
However, it is more to do. There are still bugs which need to be fixed, and many features yet to implement. :P
Hmm, i've checked in pk3s and found many which could fit...
In pak0.pk3: items/health /powerupspawn /regen (this one is good)
However all those are short sounds, and maybe well have to think if a sound loop runing all long the time someone is thawing wouldnt be best.
What do you all think ? (would be much easier to spot someone thawing thou).
I just wanna say, good work atrey. We love your work.
I was wondering one thing.. is it possible to modify screen text to little smaller? I mean like when someone unfreeze you or someone joins the red or blue. And the text when team wins.
I know it's not the most important thing but it would add something to visual look
So where I can download the latest file?
We can configure screen layout as we wish.
We indeed need a good layout design. If someone could post a sample that would be great!
Scoreboard hud is just perfect, no need to change that. But for examble what OSP has in this one:
So there's examble of little text for fragged message. And enemy name is smaller too which is nice. Another thing what comes to screen is when u change weapon railgun to gauntlet and votes would be nice to have smaller too.
if im not wrong: ch_fragmessage 12x12 < ch - config hud, 12x12 - size in pixels ( heightxwidth )
Also, theres a bug allowing to crash servers that many ppl know, i thought it has been solved but no....Its really important to fix it, but i think it could be hard. For more infos pm me, i wont spread the bug here.
the "you have fragged.. tied for zzz place" message would be great.
Maybe a new scoreboard would be something tasty aswell, something like cpma is but not quite as big text if you know what i mean, so more players are visible to see on it. (but it has to look sexy like the CPMA one to)
Also I think we should slow down the game play... I think it's to fast personally, it should be something simular to 1.16... so i think we should slow this down a touch aswell, would be great for non hookerz like me.
I also like the green models etc with texture on them, so that will be good aswell, hmm.. anyway gl with it, looking forward to using it asap. =]
The scoreboard layout woun't be changed in the upcoming release. But we certainly schedule scoreboard changes to the folowing one.
PS: pSylle, pls pm or email me the bug. Attach all relevant screenshots if required.
Psylle is probably talking about say/vsay bug
I hope the current scoreboard hud remains to select? I like current one >.>
hello, sorry i come in this discussion so late! anyway, adam mailed me the new mod yesterday, so far it's great, i love the glowing models! and i think shooting has been improved too?
spiral had the right idea imo, that is to say we should leave options as much as possible (i dont know if this is too much work..?) that means one can switch old/new scoreboard/thawsounds/railsounds because i like the 'hit' sound and the scoreboard as it is now!
maybe someone can also write some kind of manual to the new mod - because I don't know all commands for colorcodes for the models...
great work so far! keep it up!
HOWTO USE MODEL/SKIN FORCING IN EFREEZE-1.1
To switch Forced models on:
/seta cg_forceModel 1
To switch Forced skins on:
/seta cg_forceSkin 1
To set enemy model:
/seta enemy_model klesk/red
/seta enemy_headModel klesk/red
To set teammate model:
/seta team_model anarki/blue
/seta team_headModel anarki/blue
To use CPMA-like models:
/seta cg_forceSkin 1
/seta team_model
/pm
/seta team_headModel /pm
/seta enemy_model /pm
/seta enemy_headModel /pm
To set colors for CPMA-like models do:
/seta ef_playerColor "rrr" ( for tourneys, FFA )
/seta ef_teamColor "bbb" ( for TDM, CTF )
/seta ef_enemyColor "www" ( for all games )
The color var shall consist from 3 chars
first - legs color
second - torso color
third - head color
letters stands for:
b - blue
c - cyan
g - green
m - magenta
r - red
w - white
y - yellow
About thaw sound, if we let players choose the sound, he could freely choose a very long one, the sound playing ALL time the player is thawing and not only when he approaches, making him a easy target.
atrey, what happened to a black color in scoreboard hud? =/
. Please put it back
Yah honestly i prefer a good black too =p but you can watch defrag mod for exemple where colors and character size can be set.
This is what I figured out in new version, dunno if it is made for purpose:
So top scoreboard is old one and bottom one new. There's lil differences in the new scoreboard: less space for names and more room in front of the player model heads. So dunno if this is bug or what but it would be better more room for player names like in old scoreboard. For examble KONRAD's name doesnt fit in new version.
The name field width is 100 which it seems like is too small.
Also, I noticed that you use pm models and have r_vertexlight set to 1, so pm-model heads are not drawed correctly.
I dunno what that means >.>. I think now pm skins works just perfect. They aint like it was before full colored models without any details (top screen).
great work atrey. i dont know if i followed the discussion right.... but i hope the pm models work on vertex as well now:] when can we expect an official release?
I'm going to leave for a vocation since this Saturday.
So, from my side I will provide Adam with the compiled mod (release version).
Then he will prepare a distribution (i.e make some changes into server configs which are a part of the distribution, maybe he will do some other tasks).
Also, there is a plan to re-born the eFreeze site (we already have an acknowledgment from Spc) and proceed with subsequent releases, mod discussion, etc. using that site.
Anyway, I think that Adam atm is the man who decides (with the silent acknowledge from NoNe).
Very nice work atrey <3
I tried a script that loop all models on 1 button and i noted that no need to press TAB to see that model has changed. But that feature works only in TMD mod, could it be possible to extend that to dm, tourney etc....Applying what you did on team_model to model?
How about addition to next release: player gets freezed when he joins to a team from spects. Until he's unfreezed or teams has scored he can continue playing. That would prevent that reconnecting problem which some players are abusing.
It's just a noob abuse that don't have so many effects on the game. Reconnect command can be useful in some specific cases, we don t have to punish the usage of it into the game. Spiral, let them being stupid. We cannot prevent noobs from playing on public servers.
