league rules..
Section: 333 League 2006 | Started by: rzr | Date: 30/01/2006 12:43
Hi,

want to make somem suggestions to make the league more exiting :)

1. important point. at the moment both teams will respawn when a team scores a point. I think this is really not good for the balance in the game. Because if one team is better they will most likely win. Because every round you start 5v5. And if the team that scores will have their frozen bodies still frozen it will make the weaker team easier to score a point. this would be more fair if you ask me, alkso will bring a lot more exitement to the game.

2. the map timeelimit is 10 this is kinda short i say 15min would bee better.

3. the capturelimit is 10 this is low too its hard to make a comeback also would be more exitement if you just raise this to 15.

4. a beste of 3 maps.


mm just some suggestionsn to spice up the leugue.. over all u guys doing a great job so far..

-rzr

i agree 100% with all rzr said! i found very interesting the fact frozen bodies still remain frozen after a score. And i've always been for 15 capture limit  if we play at best of 5. Other wise we could have played at best of 7.


I only think timelimit is set to 20mins right now, and i agree with this choice.


ciao, stema

how come bodies stay frozen...that is insane, cant it be fixed??
ty stema.. the 20 min timelimit is fine. Thjought it was 10 so my fault.. Yes king that's the way I always played it.. makes the game better balance and much more fun to play.. less spawn frags.. less random shots.. just more fun and exitement..
i did not know the bodys been keped frozon at all the only problem i had was that when i was spawing for some reson i spawned on top of some one elss and got frozon and who ever i spawned on could not move it happend 2 times in 2 matches i played and happend a some other time last year ones
they don kept frozen.. thats the new feuture i was suggesting.. that the team who won the point will kept frozen so that your teamm8s have to thaw u instead of all respawning when a point is made.
not a bad idea...we should try it...and fast (o)
tbh i wouldnt be a fan of this frozen bodies idea but meh

altho its easier for the other team - now we've played some matches it could only really be implented in the next stage of fights


yes i meant for the next stage in the league. Its just something you have to get used to it but it will have many advantages as i stated allready :)
i think it would make the wars go faster and as the league has allready started it might upset the peeps who all ready played the wars but its up 333 league peeps:D

hey rzr ..


well atm there's qualification part of league, u can check the charts that only 4 clans will qualify plus us .. so as qualifications already started i think it would be rude to suddenly change the rules .. we can however change them for the 5 clan league .. as for timelimit, it's on 20 atm, fraglimit is 10 as mostly we play like it and same is with frozen bodies ..


ur suggestions are interesting, maybe if all qualified clans agree we can change some of the rules u suggested .. again i think qualified clans should agree here .. i'll write an email to clans which will qualify when qualification part will be over to see what respond i get .. we don't want to force something what other ppl might not like and we want to make it fair .. but indeed this can maybe be implemented into next league(s) :D


edit: haven't seen ur last post when i wrote that

I agree 100% with everything razer said, it's more fair and makes the game more exciting. If a team is winning and scores at one point, and maybe 2 of their team are frozen they will thaw and the spawned other team has easy frags when they thaw. It's been like that since forever on 1.32, and it makes the games more interesting. Fraglimit 15 = best.

Lyor Told :

Fraglimit 15 = best.

Posted on 30 January 2006 at 18:12:31


im sure there used to be 15 fraglimit here now its 10 or 12 to many peeps voting for dm6 when it was 15 fraglimit lol

thx for the feedback guys! Yes i agree with you none.. It would be nice if we come to the stage of the 5 clans to vote or implent it.. like you said just keep it like this now would love to see it changed thou. Over all good job 333.. Also someone said the games would go faster? What i suggested about the frozen bodies isn't faster..
MaD JaK Told :
Posted on 30 January 2006 at 18:12:31


im sure there used to be 15 fraglimit here now its 10 or 12 to many peeps voting for dm6 when it was 15 fraglimit lol




yeah jacky, when i started the first server here in eu i used to have 15 for tdm and 10 for 1v1, as i was used to this when i started playing quake in usa. I just preferred to have best of 5, instead best of 7 like they used, cos some matches with well balanced teams could have lasteed to much (i remember a 3 hours game with loonies, lol!). But with new server ppl showed to prefer 10 as capture limit, so that is :) but sometimes we see round ending in less than 5 minutes..and well i think its too few!


So, im for changing the frozen body rule+15capture limit (still best of 5) for the fianl part of the league (if all agree of course)...and if some server owners r hearing, i would change till now at least the frozen body part in they tdm servs...just to get ppl used


ciao,stema

kk sounds nice to me if its rased to 15 maby the topscore could be broken :D

it wonmt.. because with the new frzn body thingie its harder ;).. i used to play like this for 1.5 years and with a 150 ping my topscore was somewhere in 100+ with capture 15 and timelimit 20 althou i scores the 100 in 17 min or sop :P.. so dont expect that much ;) also because some otyher top players there get like max 120 :P
I totaly agree with razer. 1.32 style :D
I would like to see this happend none, so think about it.
I'm sure the whole GoR clan agree's.

-Bomb
if its more fun and more fair, why not, I only see good things in it :)
only bad thing is when u are frozon after yer team scores and no one unfreezes u hehe hope this makes more peeps as obsest as i am at unfreezing :D

Hey guys!


In general I don't like the frozen bodies idea! I like the 15 fraglimit. But I would prefer best of 5.


Razer here's why: You said there can't be a "comeback in the map" Well with a best of 5 there can be a comeback OF a whole map, cause the team has time to concentrate again and choose a map they like.


It is 20 timelimit so nothing to worry; It was either Frag10 Best of 5 OR Frag15 Best of 3. We didnt want it go on too long (what Stema said). Well if you want a 15Fraglimit it's ok with me! But please leave Best of 5!


Public: Notice there's a difference between public and clanwars - I personally don't want anything changed, even lower the timelimit! On public servers there is no teamplay at all! There are campers (not for tactic), Score is all that matters! Teams are so often not balanced! If you make frag15 - it will get boring much faster!


The "frozen bodies stay frozen" idea is very much not in favour of my gameplay! I am not for this idea! But I am not the only one to decide!

have played with the idea for about 1.5 years now. And i guarantee you that the frozen bodies thing will bring more exitement. A comeback of a map is kinda weird if you ask me, its like ok we are down with 6-1 just give up this map o way we can make it because it capture 10 and we cant win because they are better and every round we start 5v5.. anyway i got your concerns but also in pubs the frozen bodies thing will come to a better gameplay after all..


 


 

can't edit.. but what jackie said it will also focus you on thawing ur team. Because its kinda weird that a team can win just to roam around and shoot everyone and not thawing. Becausre they know they start after every round unthawed. Also this will bring new tactics. People will have to look at teamoverlay where to thaw. And opposite team might wanna guard the frozen bodies etc etc.
i think it would be a good idear to just test it out on the next wars and see what the diffrent clans think of it and disded weather to keep it or not but best to just leave public servers

rzr Told :

can't edit.. but what jackie said it will also focus you on thawing ur team. Because its kinda weird that a team can win just to roam around and shoot everyone and not thawing. Becausre they know they start after every round unthawed. Also this will bring new tactics. People will have to look at teamoverlay where to thaw. And opposite team might wanna guard the frozen bodies etc etc.

Posted on 31 January 2006 at 10:59:36


 


indeed but if ever one elss starts to unfreeze all the time were is that gona leave me lol

maplimit 5 is beter i think, a team can always come back, I remember back when i was in oni, we lost the first 2 (!) maps but we still won 2-3 so making the limit 5 would be a good choice

Just make the capturelimit 1 kurwa! 8) hehe
sure im down for that ;o althou it will make the matches helluva longer! was talking about king his post..
For the ones who don't agree with the frozen bodies... maybe some admin can implement it, I think everyone will like it better, you'll see the scores may be dropping, but there will be more excitement and more teamplay over all. Maybe if you can't sleep at one night, take a loot on www.ogl.org and see if a 1.32 clan is having a clanwar, take a loot on gtv and see how they play, it needs more tactics this way, it may seem a minor change but it changes the game quite a lot.

yes Lyor, as u know i play IFT on 1.32 U.S., but what's the problem, here no one has played on it and we already get disagreements .. that's why i'll vote and let qualified clans decide about it .. for sure there should be a server first with this on, otherwise i don't think there will be any positive respond ..


so if any admin wants to try this, change dmflags to 1160 and we can see how ppl will like it


edit: or better, make an announcement and party with this new settings and have a try

was not very convinsed by the idear but if there gona be a party for it im in :D
cool none, what nick u play under used to be in usa servers always for about 2 years :P Thats where i found lyor and went down to own some euros :P
bah madjak please change your avatar again, cant see your add anymore - not meant personally :p its too long anyway... :p love ya still.... :p

absinthe Told :

bah madjak please change your avatar again, cant see your add anymore - not meant personally :p its too long anyway... :p love ya still.... :p

Posted on 31 January 2006 at 16:59:47


 


i love u 2 maby we meet for a webcam chat to night when the moon goes above the apple tree and u can show me your love


and what part of my signature do u want me to get rid of and i will see what i am gona do i have only just edited it to make it look smarter and smaller


 


1010 Posts show me respect :D

respect! - and about the avatar: it's the james ryan part I am fed up with ... :p

absinthe Told :

respect! - and about the avatar: it's the james ryan part I am fed up with ... :p

Posted on 31 January 2006 at 19:08:45


james ryan is not in it its the other troops in saving privet ryan i was gona edit him out for u but i dont even see him

not sure if i read this right as im taked up but now what happens with test clan are they out or do we have to rematch them


 


Saturday (4.2)
18:00 (CET) ::  -- postponed on monday --
20:00 (CET) ::  Test vs K&D


and is this just gona be to see who would of won if they bothered to even turn up lazy ass clan

Saturday (4.2)
20:00 (CET) ::  Test vs K&D[/cit]


didnt they show up? in this case, as it seems they didnt tel that in advance, i think u passed the turn, right?


ciao

yea they didn't know so few will show up .. u played 3v5 and won it, so u're on next stage .. will update results and chart, i'm a bit low on time ..
nice easy win yes i was there but was at the pub also hehe just wanted my name on the screen shots lol

hey mad,


once again cause ou didnt quite got it - i think i have had enough of the whole movie that is playing in every forum i go to,! cause you contribute so much to the site - every forum is playing this avatar movie of yours - i hope you change after a time....


sorry to bother and critise


andi

Ok some new things we maybe implend in the leugue fase. First of all each team can hve a max of 2 specs the rest can go watch via GTV, then when changing 1st you have to spectate then one can go in. And no way that you will reconnect thats outta the question. The 2nd the waiting is maybe a lil long maybe a max of 15 min is better. Mm then i think is better if everyone is ready to implent the /ready thing. So if everyone is ready the clock countsdown from 10 sc and we start. Mm thats it thx for the referee tonight.

i updated the chart thing, all demos, results, screenshots will be updated tomorrow evening .. also emails will be send tomorrow evening .. i leak on time cos of uni, tomorrow is last exam this month, so have some patience ..


rzr, if u check rules u see about the /ready thing .. things with * (star) infront will only be in the final league .. so why about the /ready thing?, cos lot's of polish clans don't talk english nor know how to do /ready (we tested it on some first matches and was disaster) .. so this comes in the final's ..


anyway, i'm out till monday evening .. and again, there are all demos of matches, so don't ask if we have them or not, we have them all .. they'll be available soon as well


 

ok ty ill look.. my other ideas arent good? Btw my rules arent stated yet in the rules topic.. :)

np about refereeing today ..


as for first spec then next in, of course that's already in rules .. we give a warning if it happends for the first time, but as u saw today, if a clan do it twice, they lose a round .. it's really cheap to do /reconnect when u're frozen and wants other player to get in and we don't tolerate it ..


as for 15min max, we'll see, it happened for the first time, so if it will happen again, we'll think about it ..


about the 2 spec, others gtv .. lot's of clans are used to change a lot, so it would go for too long to reconnect from gtv to server i think .. for example WeeD has over 30 members, it's hard for them to make squds for every map or know who'll play in advence, especially if they would all be in gtv, so dunno .. also they don't even know who's in gtv nor if he saw when someone was calling him to come to server .. it's how we're used here on 1.31 ..


as for us referee's on server, as much as possible referee's come to the match, as one is recording demo and others are recording individuals .. so at the end we have demos of just some players we wanted to check and whole game which is publicly available ..


also players, don't try to play for other clans, as we save all ips from matches .. if u get cought u'll be banned from league ..


and play fair and pure ..


edit: to add, also rzr lot's of ppl also ask who's the gtv guy, what is he doing here .. so u can see what situation is here about gtv and stuff :D

hi problem is that the thing today wasnt forbidden.Morus wanted to change smyk but he was frozen and told morus he must wait.Morus then told smyk that he cant reconnect cause it it is a rule.King started to shout "HE IS TELLING HIM TO RECONNECT" and nobody saw that he reconnected AFTER gor get a point so he wasnt frozen then!The point is not i am mad or something i would not ven been mad if it will be accepted just wanted to tell the truth...we will see tomorrow when the 333 upload Love ya alL

He reconnected while we were playing, its not allowed to reconnect at all! And SW did it 2 times, first was a warning, after a warning its a punishment, its all in the there in the rules

the rules are there to be respected, just like we waited 20 mins for a player at the start of the match.

dont be a bad loser :)

shur, i always recheck when deciding about anything .. it wasn't king why we did it .. i rechecked and he did the /reconnect .. also it's referee's decision .. why we don't tolerate this is, cos u get an alive player for an dead (frozen) one .. it's not fair and it's forbidden, at least in league .. elsewhere it's up to u how u'll play ..


 


also i went and checked the demos just for u


here's the screenshot:



and shur, it's not nice to lie about it, as u can see what happend here ..
at first azu said "morus change with smyk" (1st line).. and also azu said to reconnect (10th line) .. it was his mistake .. as u can see he was railed by Tim (3rd line) before so he was frozen and i don't care about the red team scores, as he would do it anyway ..


also nothing is lost for SW even if they lose the next match as well .. check the charts ..

Hi all, i got some ideas for the league, tell what do you think about it plz:

First there are 2 matches between teams "aller/retour" like in foot league, i suggest that the first match can be played on a server chosen by a team then the second one played on server chosen by second team (visitors/home).
Secondly, why servers arent punkbustered?

Thx for suggestions, peace.

pSylle Told :

Hi all, i got some ideas for the league, tell what do you think about it plz: First there are 2 matches between teams "aller/retour" like in foot league, i suggest that the first match can be played on a server chosen by a team then the second one played on server chosen by second team (visitors/home). Secondly, why servers arent punkbustered? Thx for suggestions, peace.

Posted on 13 February 2006 at 04:52:47


we should really try to play the league wars on 1.32 punkbusted...without valid cdkey, its so much better then 1.31
think about it ;)

1.32 pb is a great idea, we can do this on the 5-League!


For the love of god, get your hands on a cd-key generator ( like it did ) and it will work - i guess.

pSylle Told :
Hi all, i got some ideas for the league, tell what do you think about it plz:

First there are 2 matches between teams "aller/retour" like in foot league, i suggest that the first match can be played on a server chosen by a team then the second one played on server chosen by second team (visitors/home).
Secondly, why servers arent punkbustered?

Thx for suggestions, peace.

Posted on 13 February 2006 at 04:52:47


sry dont like the idea.., like the idea of punkbuster but most of you guys dont have cd key so too bad :(
1.32 is razer, lyor and bomb territory 8)
Or buy the game ;)

And what about servers?
just wondering who  pSylle is and if u dont buy a coppy u can allways steal one
i can give cdkey to all :) just mailme! vegetagt@tlen.pl