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333 League 2006 |
Started by: none |
Date: 25/01/2006 21:33
hey guys,
in this forum u can ask questions about the league, problems u may participate, anything regarding to the league ..
u can find rules and qualification wars here, we'll add the playoffs up asap, so u'll be able to see whom u'll be fighting next in advance ..
if u have problems or don't know what is gtv or how to use it, we had a discussion on ../forum.html. Go through the posts, u'll find info at the bottom of first page and on next pages .. we won't tolerate non-members in the league servers, u can get banned from league, i warned u ..
still if u have question about league, rules, anything .. feel free to create new thread and we'll discuss it there ..
GOOD LUCK!
when will we get to know who we vs next or will it depend on who wins and looses there matches
whos gona be the Referees if a member is found cheating will s/he,it be also baned from the public servers
nice one mad, I sure hope so, banned on public servers and clanmatch servers for life
Nice.. And ExS musst w8 for first match... Shit, what a luck :P Greetz :]
How many clans will compete in total now?
ps: nice tag jacky
why are exs having to w8 for there war :S cant u just see whos best on sat then exs can play that clan on sunday or have u got a table your sticking to :S
thers a topic on whos in it missy but now exs sead they gona have to w8 there could also be other clans that are having to w8 only time will tell 
ps.......thx miss
Hey all!
None it would be very pleasant if u could write the names of the clans participating in the league. Thanks.
Mad-Jak where r u from? It can be that my english sucks hard, but i hardly understood anything u were talkin about
Perhaps next time
Good luck for everyone
Majek Told :
Hey all!
None it would be very pleasant if u could write the names of the clans participating in the league. Thanks.
Mad-Jak where r u from? It can be that my english sucks hard, but i hardly understood anything u were talkin about
Perhaps next time
Good luck for everyone
Posted on 26 January 2006 at 13:19:46
jaki just speaks like crap

its normal
I don't want to be referee, not that anyone asked me, but last time I did it was a disaster, I was right in the end though.
still a lot of referee in

333
Majek Told :
Hey all!
None it would be very pleasant if u could write the names of the clans participating in the league. Thanks.
Mad-Jak where r u from? It can be that my english sucks hard, but i hardly understood anything u were talkin about
Perhaps next time
Good luck for everyone
Posted on 26 January 2006 at 13:19:46
Im english and i would call my writing slang sorry if u dont understand it maby studdy harder lol
j/k
relax babies 
OC's are also referee's, u can see who's OC in the end of rules thread, no one other is an referee .. Lyor u won't be, no worries
11 clans are participating in qualifications, those are following: DR, DRC, ExS, GoR, K&D, NQT, ONI, Test, Stars, SW, WeeD
why is ExS not playing this weekend, because we're playing PLAYOFFS now .. as number of participating clans is ODD (11), one clan can't play the first round .. u understand now? still don't, bah ![[big]](../images/smileys/bigleu.gif)
again, there's no ladder or anything as this are playoffs .. 4 clans will qualify, others are out, i'm sry .. those 4 will play in the league with us then .. so league won't become boring (top 5 clans), clans won't die in it and it won't take months like ex leagues did ... (the last took half a year)
so ... i'll put PLAYOFF chart asap here, i'm feeling a bit sick atm and am not behind screen a lot .. have some understandment plz .. thank u ..
we are relax
kk thx none for the info
GOOD LUCK to all who are in the league
ok, i have created playoff chart, will add for the losing playoffs soon .. again 2 clans will qualify from this playoffs and 2 from losing ..
check the league forums for the playoffs chart thread or click here
333 are not on that
we got a new member to day can he play in the wars as its not actualy started yet ?
we agreed to allow new recruitments till the first wars (saturday), after them, new members in ur clan won't be able to participate ..
also we allow one more clan to enter the qualifications .. if u know any, talk to 'em, also they will play ExS as first and DR or Stars as second ..
kk i think i will try to ask nas but going up agains exs or dr think most will be scard lol
ok i told a clan to email info@clan333.com to join the league so they should be the last clan to join i hope
also asked nas just depends on who gets back to u first
k, be sure they have at least 5 members ..
anyway, i've updated the chart .. it's final version now .. u can see whom u'll play in advance, also u can see where u'll be and predict whom u'll play if u lose in first, second or third round .. hope misunderstandings about playoffs are now gone, if not shoot the question ...
the chart looks very good, like the other rules and stuff, you really thaught good about this league none 
im proud of you 
ah thank u king
also others contributed a lot to the league too so they deserve their credit as well 
mad-jak as why we aren't in playoffs, at first organization takes a lot of time and it would be rude to participate in them as well .. that's why low clan league, less time needed, faster, highest competition, .. as u saw in SW legue, SW's didn't participate as well, took them much time ..
and finally GOOD LUCK EVERYONE and KICK SOME ASSES! 
ah oke thx for taking all the time to orginse this
and do i need to email the new members we got or am i ok just telling u here:S
new members are
manuel,aurel
well leaders sent email about it already, but we disallow "last minute recruitments" to play on first match .. so vs ONI in ur case ..
so manuel cant play in the first war we got ?
think think think aurel can as hes been in the clan for a while he should be on the list that sob or old sent u but unsure still 
also u say they cant if they are last min members but manu been in for 2 days now have u worded this rong or can he still play is it only tomoro if we get any new members they cant play ?
last minute members are all who joined after sign ups closed .. so everyone after last sunday
kk thx none little weard that clans can still join but members cant now maby we get out of the league then rejoin with the new member lol u see what i mean 
silly they cant join but any way rules are rules and they will be respected 
lol to the post below im not gona spam here more than i have 
nop king this not the right place for it talk about 1 thing only here
u start a new forum and i will spam there
go Jaki , go ! still 3 posts and u win ... a big cake

1000 !!
ye spam 3 more posts :P
sooo, first match begins at 6 .. screenshots and demos will be found in the "Qualification League Wars" thread ..
notice that servers will be pure, so be sure ur members can enter!
everyone can watch the match over gtv server and talk about it .. to do so type /connect gtv.x-org.com:30000 to connect to it, after u're in type /gtv_watch 2 and u'll be able to watch it and talk with other ppl in the gtv about it .. if u have problems, check the first post where u can find help .. u can also ask here ..
hf and good luck
as for server, we'll try to get as many as possible, but it's not up to us, it's up to admins ..
so atm we have austrian one and would like to thank insence for setting everything up as i wanted and his friends (DooMDirK, Joe, Exium, Mistra) for letting us using it ...
i hope other admins will try to help here as well .. would be nice if we can have more servers, like sari's, maybe some polish too, also adam said he'll talk to odi about the bedzie server .. in further there will be more of 'em and we'll be able to get best one for ur match .. it's not up to us ..
u can get results, screenies and demo's already in the qualification league wars thread ..
if gtv.x-org.com doesn't resolve, type /connect 213.161.8.44:30000 instead and it will work 100%
thx none 
and thanks ! 
charts, results and schedule are updated .. screenies and demos will be added during week .. if u need them right away, send me a private msg ...
if someone want this:
www.exs.kom.pl/dema/exsdr_333league.zip <<< demos + screens from ExS vs. DR
lol i sent u and u put up, good
i need more such ppl 
Congratulations to all the winning clans

this league is fun
after qualification part comes biggest fun 
anyway, how much of u can play during week? like on wednesday evening for example .. most of u free or it's no good for cw's?
GoR vs WeeD Demo, where is it NoNE? ![[lo]](../images/smileys/coucou.gif)
coming soon, stay tuned
none Told :
after qualification part comes biggest fun 
anyway, how much of u can play during week? like on wednesday evening for example .. most of u free or it's no good for cw's?
Posted on 06 February 2006 at 17:38:45
its no good :P
can i get the info for sw vs gor plz...i need to send it 2 my members
Sunday
20:00 (CET) :: GoR vs SW
they dont need the pass just yet so 
days in the week are good for me too
when r the new rules are implented?
i heard about dr vs exs to night also is there any demos kicking about or is this update stuck ?
any how take your time i know your gona be busy with other stuff
ok i've updated the schedules, results, put all screenies and demos up as promised ..
enjoy 
enjoy 
sure ! thanks !

cool nice update and needed update
thx none
My long waiting is over, thanks NoNE
njes.
ok we've decide to move league (not qualifications) to 1.32 with pb and as some clans already sent agreements for this, it's almost sure that's where it will be played ..
i've put up an testing server, so u can update and test pb .. server is laggy here and then, but it's not cause of pb ..
62.75.146.39:29321
pass: pbtest
u can get pointrelease 1.32 here
i've enabled that cdkeys with keygen will work, so get keygen here
also that u won't have more quakes installed, download version switcher here so u can switch between version with one click.
report problems if u consider any ..
u can test it also on Nqt server(polish one) 81.26.6.5:27960
you can update pb via pbweb!
it is easier and faster than pb_sv_enable and pb_sv_update
for windows:
http://vegetagt.kom.pl/pbweb.exe
Download it to quake3 1.32/pb and run it
for linux:
http://vegetagt.kom.pl/pbweb.x86
Download it to /home/ur login/.q3a/pb make it executable and run it
hey little rats (I still luv u madjak!),
As you might know, I've been lying in a grave for the past half year... So some1 has to get me up to date :P! Qualification for what?
1.32, now thats a good idea

u guys should think about bringin ur clans over to they US and joining our OGL ladder....its a lotta fun, although it will probably be hard for u guys due to the ping issue
hehe squire it been tryed b4 for some reson we came back
as long as its still efreeze on 1.32 im happy i know 1.32 dont get rid of 100% cheats but its better than were we are atm
i love dutch duck
official m8 of q3 for many night of webcam fun 
lol put punkbusted on the server too plz just to make sure exs wont cheat. I wont call names
MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY
lol xDDDDD
Njes Monkey ( a'ka MonGay ) is bad h4><0r!! ban him =P
< : D
who knows maby there will be others pb catch
not me no more taken them all out 
1.32 is the best idea this community has come up with ever!
i think we should put punkbuster 1 ,2 and 3 in, just in case these cheating punks try and do something
Someone with knowledge, is 1.32 pb = 100 % against cheats?
Lets pray to god this is true ![[lo]](../images/smileys/coucou.gif)
they update pb every month or so...to update with new cheats people make

do its as good of protection as ur gunna get
pb is not 100% anti cheat but its the best u gona get
www.punkbusted.com <-- plz that too on the server
NoNe we have servers... on 1.31 and 1.32 ..servers are in germany well all clans will have good pings..we can rent servers for league or play off ...if you want to try them , write on my msn- bicik@interia.pl .. or the same email :P ..cya greetings
DRC bit
i dont like the idea of moving into 1.32...... i can never get into any 1.32 servers....... i will try that keygen..... i alredy got version switcher 
I guess i can try using 1.32
hopefully it works
as u were saying none that most clans has agreed....... who has agreed
?
Hehe i jus tried 1.32 .......... with a valid cdkey!!!!! and i think it is pretty good....... it worked well for me so i think it sud work well for all others
CrissY Told :
i dont like the idea of moving into 1.32...... i can never get into any 1.32 servers....... i will try that keygen..... i alredy got version switcher 
I guess i can try using 1.32
hopefully it works
as u were saying none that most clans has agreed....... who has agreed
?
Posted on 04 March 2006 at 10:36:00
we did
adam*pl Told :
Posted on 01 March 2006 at 21:12:12
Thx a lot for this adam

was looking for it some months now
2 good efreeze server on 1.32 !
empty 24/7 !!!!!!!
perhaps nobody knows IP ???
DRC RULEZ!|41ms|84.16.233.200:27962
NQT PUBLIC EFREEZE|75ms|81.26.6.5:27960
... and ... dont says more cd key is a problem !! your problem is only PUNKBUSTER !!
ok we planned to start league this weekend, but it will start on next due to 1.32 moving ..
also notice that u would probablly play 2 wars per weekend .. also more servers will be there asap so u can test them as well ..
servers will have punkbuster and punksbusted (not same), for punksbusted we need to get approval which will hopefully be done this week ..
good to see none really doing a good job!. Im not sure but can you ask weed their cfg from the server. Thats the smoothest server around. Without any shooting thru etc..
lol i think there are 4 efreeze servers in 1.32
insted of copying ip adresses y dusnt everyone also get all seeing eye from downloads section so u can actually know how many servers there really are
it is cool coz i have been using for a while now and also u can see who is in a server 
Anyway the servers up are:
Polish League Server
German League Server
DRC Rulezzz (they actually dont coz we jus beat them for a second time
)
NQT Server
CrissY Told :
lol i think there are 4 efreeze servers in 1.32
insted of copying ip adresses y dusnt everyone also get all seeing eye from downloads section so u can actually know how many servers there really are
it is cool coz i have been using for a while now and also u can see who is in a server 
Anyway the servers up are:
Polish League Server
German League Server
DRC Rulezzz (they actually dont coz we jus beat them for a second time
)
NQT Server
Posted on 04 March 2006 at 19:55:52
ROFLMAOASTC...Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ass Off And Scaring The Cat
lol king i am right they are wrong

i dont see the problem
Mr*K!nG Told :
CrissY Told :
lol i think there are 4 efreeze servers in 1.32
insted of copying ip adresses y dusnt everyone also get all seeing eye from downloads section so u can actually know how many servers there really are
it is cool coz i have been using for a while now and also u can see who is in a server 
Anyway the servers up are:
Polish League Server
German League Server
DRC Rulezzz (they actually dont coz we jus beat them for a second time
)
NQT Server
Posted on 04 March 2006 at 19:55:52
ROFLMAOASTC...Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ass Off And Scaring The Cat
Posted on 04 March 2006 at 20:44:50
ROTFLAOBTC! Rolling on the floor and ocassionaly bitting the carpet!!
adam*pl Told :
Mr*K!nG Told :
CrissY Told :
lol i think there are 4 efreeze servers in 1.32
insted of copying ip adresses y dusnt everyone also get all seeing eye from downloads section so u can actually know how many servers there really are
it is cool coz i have been using for a while now and also u can see who is in a server 
Anyway the servers up are:
Polish League Server
German League Server
DRC Rulezzz (they actually dont coz we jus beat them for a second time
)
NQT Server
Posted on 04 March 2006 at 19:55:52
ROFLMAOASTC...Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ass Off And Scaring The Cat
Posted on 04 March 2006 at 20:44:50
ROTFLAOBTC! Rolling on the floor and ocassionaly bitting the carpet!!
Posted on 04 March 2006 at 21:36:52

??*vs*??=??pm(CET)|38ms|62.75.146.39:29321
can you set :
seta sv_strictAuth "0"
"> humzzzz
Problem unvalid_cdkey
im not the alone of my clan to have this problem for the server of test !333!
i hope its not this server for cw, if its it Problem lol
SQuaLL Told :
"> humzzzz
Problem unvalid_cdkey
im not the alone of my clan to have this problem for the server of test !333!
i hope its not this server for cw, if its it Problem lol
Posted on 05 March 2006 at 14:18:30
its fine, fix it and tell ur clan cuz we gonna play on 1.32 for 100%
so when will we get the next date for matches?
and who do u think will win them 
MaD JaK Told :
and who do u think will win them 
Posted on 05 March 2006 at 17:35:02
me me and me :o
eeeeeeek road runner what about your clan
lol the bitches without skill will win

(u not sure on who i am implying :P)
SQuaLL Told :
"> humzzzz
Problem unvalid_cdkey
im not the alone of my clan to have this problem for the server of test !333!
i hope its not this server for cw, if its it Problem lol
download q3 keygen from here (click here)
upack, run and copy/paste cdkey into ur q3 .. let ur members do same and try server afterwards .. should work ..
Ok qualifications are finished, qualified clans for the league are: DR, ExS, S8, SW and 333
we got approval for punksbusted which will be set on server during week, be sure all of ur members can enter the 1.32 server, it's not our problem if u'll find out that someone can't join it ..
next, i warn u now that if u'll try any cheats u'll get permanently banned and u'll get added into global master ban list .. we CAN'T unban u and mostly u won't be able to join any other mods on 1.32 server as well .. so if u can't join server, u're on ur own ..
we'll make calendar for all mathces, so u'll know in advance who'll u play and when, first wars will start this weekend, info will be send asap on the mails .. notice that u'll play every clan twice .. if u'll know in advance that u won't be able to play on some date, we'll find other one, but report us at least 2 days before match, otherwise it won't get moved ..
read rules again, we won't tolerate as much as we did on qualifications!
play fair and good luck
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 1.32 > *
Hehe minky... <3!
crissy: hey!
hactric: ...hi?
hactric: who is this?
crissy: Crissy, I saw u on myspace
crissy: ur hot
hactric: thanks
crissy: np
hactric: this n00b keeps bugging me, but I don't want to talk to him
hactric: what should I do?
crissy: make up sum excuse, like ur mom is kickin u off or sumthing
hactric: oh alright
hactric: I have to go
hactric: my mom is kicking me off
hactric: bye
I like spam
lol king....... u really talk a load of shit. Neway i am off 2 have lunch so cya later

i
cu man, say hi to hac for me when his mom lets him back on
None, about that test server (62.75.146.39:29321).
I can join all other 1.32 servers with no problem but when I try to connect on this one "Invalid Cd-key" appears...
Anyone got any idea wtf is going on?
*Mad* Told :
None, about that test server (62.75.146.39:29321).
I can join all other 1.32 servers with no problem but when I try to connect on this one "Invalid Cd-key" appears...
Anyone got any idea wtf is going on?
Posted on 07 March 2006 at 15:23:51
buy quake 3
try typeing /reconnect, or disableing autodownload and reconnecting
lol king eheh
my felow mad did u use that keygen that was posted on here that works on 1.32 if so try a diffrent key and keep trying
hey madjak it dus the same on me...... i can get in every server in freeze except the dog freeze 1 and 2 and also that server than you were talking about. It keeps saying invalid cdkey but i can get on every other server
Crissy I think I know what's the matter. It's just that None's server was down back then. Someone told me that if you try to connect server that isnt online, INVALID CD-KEY may appear. And also I recommend you all to download key gen that None posted here. The one I had before seemed to generate wrong cd-keys or sth. But this one works well and now I can connect everywhere
If u want to play On Dogs server (freeze with all guns) u need have orginal cd-key SUPER FUCKING VAILD ONE i had it but i have lost it [b]
can some1 help me out here. Is it for real Chrissy to is a MAN ? I was already shocked by the fact that Minky was a man to. Are there any females left in Quake
ps. we have 1 ( *^Stars*Girl!
)
edit this file :
if %1 == +connect (
quake3.exe %*
) else (
quake3.exe %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
)
save it as quakeASE.bat in your q3 folder where is the quake3.exe file
in all seeing eyes , go in custom launch options for 1.32 , Cmd Line :
change your command line C:\quake132\quake3.exe with C:\quake132\quakeASE.bat
it will start your q3 1.32 !
i have 4 women in my 1.32 instafreeze clan in the US, they all rock
nas girl, diana. badgirl and angel sometimes too
only slay minky in 8? Or who else? oh mazda the who else? :x
slay, mini, xaiolynn, mazda(Bunny)
mad-jacky
only on thur when i dressup as a girl 
lol madjacky
Why has the screenshots from DR vs DRC qualification final match not been put up yet? i wanna see them...... hopefully in time it will come up
whats IP for 1.32 GTV ??
drc.exs2.kom.pl:27972 i see in demo !!!!
no gtv for me yesterday !!
pfffffff ! i hope i could spect them this evening !!
gtv2.x-org.com:27972
or
drc.exs2.kom.pl:27972
none i emailed you with 2 mails look at them when u have time plz
yesterday I was the spectator of a great quality CW,
Section8 vs ExS
all great , teams (clans ) , players , game , nice camping stategy(allowed ) , and GTV without any lag , so 5 x 15 minuts of happiness !!!

i only regret that it is not there more spectators ! perhaps they dont knows its free !!!
Spécial thanks for 333 organisation , and Adam server admin !
Omg
damn man i was waiting for that game (s8 vs exs) but what was my funny little suprise the game was played on 1.32)
"> what i really dont understand cause we r 1.31 freeze community right?
And the worst of all is that i cant watch the demo ( see new topic) and that finally the GTV didnt lag but i wasnt there ![[!?!]](../images/smileys/affolement.gif)
some of you now that ToR is coming back.. Tell me about the league.. When will there be a new one, so ToR can participate?
DutchDimension Told :
some of you now that ToR is coming back.. Tell me about the league.. When will there be a new one, so ToR can participate?
Posted on 14 March 2006 at 10:32:30
welcome back tor

well dutch, s8 is thinking about organising some kind of ladder or league after this, so i hope we will be able to arrange it shortly
The Stinky Wallnutz tactic owns!!1
king dont be to sure yet, we have to wait till we get our 24serversr wuth 24 slots and the other thing i told you about but keep it a secret
ah right

we will see what santa claus has in his bag for s8
jero, install 1.32, watch the demo, easy.
is cool. Cant wait to watch it
no league war this week end ?
Could someone post scores (map and overall) from today's games? Cause I am home now (sick...) and my connection here makes it impossible to even see q3 servers... Thanx in advance.
GTV not running for 333 vs DR on 1.32 ?
gtv was getting kicked by pb lol ^^
DR vs 333 (as u couldnt watch)
dm6: 1:10 (for 333)
dm7: 8:10 (for 333 - much funner game)
dm4: 6:10 (for 333 - again fun)
Cheeetos Told :
gtv was getting kicked by pb lol ^^
DR vs 333 (as u couldnt watch)
dm6: 1:10 (for 333)
dm7: 8:10 (for 333 - much funner game)
dm4: 6:10 (for 333 - again fun)
happy u enjoy !
!
Hello, jus come 2 ask, why are the screenies not up yet for last weeks games...... despite the fact we played 3v5 vs SW i tihnk it was pretty fun :P
2 late Chrissy

No more DR in league
ok we had a break cos of holidays and we'll play the last wars this weekend ..
just some updates, exs u were not allowed to play with azuriel, so we'll do rematch .. and endless is banned for the last game due to cheating as WeeD and elsewhere (demos available) ...
exs gonna play vs us on saturday 8 pm, posers at 8 pm sunday .. i'll send u passwords tomorrow
cu on weekend, mail me if u got question, as i won't be around here ...
so we will do rematch with s8 too 
sorry none i can t believe what your saying about xendlessx !
he left weed (if your right then it sa good thing) but still i must see those demos your talking about cause sometimes we had teamspeak and ... we can coach players with it maybe someone told him where to go but i really dont think he cheats ... or explain me HOW he could have won the ogl league in 1.32
anyway he is now in s8 so ... not my prob anymore
ciao WeedAssault
oh plz u gotta be kidding.. also check adam im sure he uses hacks because he is too frustrated that after 5 years of freeze he still sux, and so what will happen if we refuse to play just a noshow?
show me the demos too btw also your sig says proud anti cheats and punksbusted contributor. so why isnt endless on MBL?
I dont really see how end can be cheating.. he won the 1.32 ogl league on some website and also played a few games on 1.32 with pb with us.. mmm
none plz give us some proof, if he really does cheat he will get kicked from s8, obviously..
rzr Told :
oh plz u gotta be kidding.. also check adam im sure he uses hacks because he is too frustrated that after 5 years of freeze he still sux, and so what will happen if we refuse to play just a noshow?
Posted on 18 April 2006 at 23:36:43
yeesssss i am fuckin cheater and i cheat 24/7/365! Im using kosze-se-sam 2006 japanes bots company!
If u refuse, im guessing it will be w/o ?:P
lol thats bs if you ask me, End doesn't play on efreeze much, only OSP[Clanarena] and hes the best on there from what i've heard and seen. He doesn't seem like a cheater to me, he was teaching some S8 how to play CA, some tricks etc since some of us were new to it. We have to replay the match vs exs? lol.. what about all the times ganja cheated against the clans in the league? Same goes for Ring2.. no matches were replayed then. Is this just some biased shit towards s8 cos' we've won the league? =\ mg lol.
ur right evol..
It'd be nice to know why anything wasn't mentioned about him cheating when he was in Weed aswell, it's only been mentioned since he joined s8. I've got demos of Weed vs 333 aswell and Endless played, I don't recall anyone saying anything about him after that. =\
plz what is this, some kind of way to scew s8? It was 1.32 he played on aswell against ExS. 
>>> We have to replay the match vs exs? lol.. what about all the times ganja cheated against the clans in the league?
noone got any proof about ganja cheating.
We must do rematch against 333, so we should do it against you!
Why? against 333 played azuriel, against you endless played with s8, he wasnt and he isnt registered to your clan
I've heard theres some demos going around with ganja cheating, and one of 333 mentioned it on the site he cheated in the league, thats why he was booted out and exs got a warning, but now he's back in exs right, lol? It's not hard to spot his cheats anyway to be honnest, and the proof was that you checked after the war and the reason (he couldn't get in at first) was because he tried to connect with ogc? Lolz and when he did finally get in, as me and most of s8 agreed, he sucked... so he must use something. =\
lol wat is calling ganja a cheat goin to achieve this time? more rep for s8 or disqualification frm the league tht u have alredy won?
none Told :
ok we had a break cos of holidays and we'll play the last wars this weekend ..
just some updates, exs u were not allowed to play with azuriel, so we'll do rematch .. and endless is banned for the last game due to cheating as WeeD and elsewhere (demos available) ...
exs gonna play vs us on saturday 8 pm, posers at 8 pm sunday .. i'll send u passwords tomorrow
cu on weekend, mail me if u got question, as i won't be around here ...
Posted on 18 April 2006 at 22:42:01
wtf is this, u had a big vacation and now ur back and telling us we need to replay this and that??
As far as im concerned none, u havent got shit to say, endless doesnt cheat and im sure you want us all to rematch because you cant believe we won this league you made with no losses.
All that hard work none made, and the number 1 hated clan just comes and takes it away with no sweat.
Grow up and find other excuses to fight us, cuz this shit wont work
Peace
evolution Told :
lol thats bs if you ask me, End doesn't play on efreeze much, only OSP[Clanarena] and hes the best on there from what i've heard and seen. He doesn't seem like a cheater to me, he was teaching some S8 how to play CA, some tricks etc since some of us were new to it. We have to replay the match vs exs? lol.. what about all the times ganja cheated against the clans in the league? Same goes for Ring2.. no matches were replayed then. Is this just some biased shit towards s8 cos' we've won the league? =\ mg lol.
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 00:01:38
Yea if you start about ganja, none is suddenly on vacation hehe
adam*pl Told :
>>> We have to replay the match vs exs? lol.. what about all the times ganja cheated against the clans in the league?
noone got any proof about ganja cheating.
We must do rematch against 333, so we should do it against you!
Why? against 333 played azuriel, against you endless played with s8, he wasnt and he isnt registered to your clan
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 00:15:15
Yea so?
They should have said that during the match, not wait for us to win the match and then 3 weeks later, oh hey s8 you need to replay that match
loool to that shit i got 2 words. Fuck You
And where in the rules does it say we need to play that clan again??
Nowhere, so stop bullshitting us and go find some other clan to cry about, cuz we dont give a shit about you none
Looking forward to see how none will try and bullshit himself out of this nasty situation hes in, instead of just running away like he usually does when he says something stupid
Take care babe <3
omgomg s8 r rite. n i know my say doesn't count 4 much since i was disqualified in the league but theres nothing in the rules 2 bck up a rematch. now this is a lame attempt 2 take the league frm s8. also if you have proof that endless cheated then show us. if you dint have proof then i shall say wht u sed 2 me. keep ur accusations 2 ur self. i want the proof publicised 4 every1 2 seee if it is true. all i cn say is that i think 333 are jealous tht s8 won the league, no offense.
Mr*K!nG Told :
And where in the rules does it say we need to play that clan again??
Nowhere, so stop bullshitting us and go find some other clan to cry about, cuz we dont give a shit about you none
Looking forward to see how none will try and bullshit himself out of this nasty situation hes in, instead of just running away like he usually does when he says something stupid
Take care babe <3
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 09:06:12
lol none mite nt sy it, myb sum1 else will clear up afte him?? z
<3 feel the love guys :D
nice said criss
lol, what the hell has happend here?
why dont u ask none that?
Monkey Told :
lol, what the hell has happend here?

Posted on 19 April 2006 at 10:22:22
yea ask none :>
none has gone paranoid
lololol
lol ppl dont dislike s8 ... they dislike you crownless brat i think that s much different
as for replay ExS ... why you care if you think your soo good just play them again you shouldn t be afraid !
ExS gave you a free win anyway ...
cu WeedAssault
ps : if xendlessx is not a cheater i dont see WHY you should replay that match thought
We've already won 3-2 and 3-0 vs ExS, the league is ours. <3
MariGold Told :
lol ppl dont dislike s8 ... they dislike you crownless brat i think that s much different
as for replay ExS ... why you care if you think your soo good just play them again you shouldn t be afraid !
ExS gave you a free win anyway ...
cu WeedAssault
ps : if xendlessx is not a cheater i dont see WHY you should replay that match thought
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 12:03:16
Your last sentence makes your entire story seem gay -_-
You say we should play em again, and then you say we shouldnt
Make up your mind for once u worthless shit 
evolution Told :
lol thats bs if you ask me, End doesn't play on efreeze much, only OSP[Clanarena] and hes the best on there from what i've heard and seen. He doesn't seem like a cheater to me, he was teaching some S8 how to play CA, some tricks etc since some of us were new to it. We have to replay the match vs exs? lol.. what about all the times ganja cheated against the clans in the league? Same goes for Ring2.. no matches were replayed then. Is this just some biased shit towards s8 cos' we've won the league? =\ mg lol.
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 00:01:38
Pardon, xENDLESSx isn't the best OSP player around.. Also not in 1.31.. Remember |ToR|^Akz1le? maybe you know him as pR Cha0kzx or ckx. Hey finishes endless off .. But endless is gooood!
Now rofl, crissy fuck off, its s8's problem.. U stop asskissing.. Yeh both sides got fucked in the ass, but u shouldnt go everywhere and tell them how sad u guys are and how hard u own them
(endless used to be in FF clan long time ago... I dont think he cheats!)
EDIT: Endless also was [WoD]*Rune*
DutchDimension Told :
evolution Told :
lol thats bs if you ask me, End doesn't play on efreeze much, only OSP[Clanarena] and hes the best on there from what i've heard and seen. He doesn't seem like a cheater to me, he was teaching some S8 how to play CA, some tricks etc since some of us were new to it. We have to replay the match vs exs? lol.. what about all the times ganja cheated against the clans in the league? Same goes for Ring2.. no matches were replayed then. Is this just some biased shit towards s8 cos' we've won the league? =\ mg lol.
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 00:01:38
Pardon, xENDLESSx isn't the best OSP player around.. Also not in 1.31.. Remember |ToR|^Akz1le? maybe you know him as pR Cha0kzx or ckx. Hey finishes endless off .. But endless is gooood!
Now rofl, crissy fuck off, its s8's problem.. U stop asskissing.. Yeh both sides got fucked in the ass, but u shouldnt go everywhere and tell them how sad u guys are and how hard u own them
(endless used to be in FF clan long time ago... I dont think he cheats!)
EDIT: Endless also was [WoD]*Rune*
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 12:20:01
they were taking about ca, not duel osp =I he also may not be the best at ca but he won a esl league 1v1 ca thats what they are talking about.
none Told :
cu on weekend, mail me if u got question, as i won't be around here ...
stop ask him any answer !
Mr*K!nG Told :
adam*pl Told :
>>> We have to replay the match vs exs? lol.. what about all the times ganja cheated against the clans in the league?
noone got any proof about ganja cheating.
We must do rematch against 333, so we should do it against you!
Why? against 333 played azuriel, against you endless played with s8, he wasnt and he isnt registered to your clan
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 00:15:15
Yea so?
They should have said that during the match, not wait for us to win the match and then 3 weeks later, oh hey s8 you need to replay that match
loool to that shit i got 2 words. Fuck You
![[lo]](../images/smileys/coucou.gif)
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 09:01:28
I said it when we were playing...
i can say one word (in polish:P ) spierdalaj 



still love u all :*:*
you did say "hey why is endless and minky here they cant play because they werent here from the beginng"
and i remember king saying "none said they could"
and i also remember none saying "yes they can play"
i would like to see demos of endless plz
EHM!!! EHM!!! EHM!!!
U can think i cheat i dont mind u know.
And if u think im the best CA OSP PLAYER u can think that to.
And if u think im NOT!! u can think that to.
But I DONT GIVE A FUCK!!!!!!!!
I know better then all the ppl who think i cheat.
And about the best CA player shit. I cant say im the best but i won the 1.32 1on1 CA LEAGUE so...... http://www.esl-europe.net/de/q3/ca/1on1/pm1/cup1/
(u can download demos to or if u need some PM my ass)
GreetzzZzZZz xEnDleSSx----ps. if u think u can beat me in 1on1 CA PM MY ASS 2 (PEACE)
And for u dutchblabla shit what ever ur name is.
I dont know this dude and if he beated me thats maybe years ago.
since the last 6 months i never lost a 1on1. So plz SILENCE u fuckhead
xEnDleSSx Told :
And for u dutchblabla shit what ever ur name is. I dont know this dude and if he beated me thats maybe years ago. since the last 6 months i never lost a 1on1. So plz SILENCE u fuckhead

Posted on 19 April 2006 at 18:48:15
Pardon? I just said u didn't cheated.. But if u like to offence me.. Do it.. You don't know him? You beat you years ago? It was in 2005 mate... And you DO know him! And don't pretend like you don't know me.. I used to have u in msn some time ago.. But I guess u got new email now.
And he beat u man.. lol it was when ToR was still alive.. u and kristof, remember him? Tried out for ToR~!!! then you bragged about ur osp skills and u lost 1v1 vs akzile (although u both didnt play that gamemode u said)
u wanted his msn, u asked me for it.. I gave it to you, you added him.. Still don't know him? whaha pff
xEnDleSSx Told :
EHM!!! EHM!!! EHM!!!
U can think i cheat i dont mind u know.
And if u think im the best CA OSP PLAYER u can think that to.
And if u think im NOT!! u can think that to.
But I DONT GIVE A FUCK!!!!!!!!
I know better then all the ppl who think i cheat.
And about the best CA player shit. I cant say im the best but i won the 1.32 1on1 CA LEAGUE so...... http://www.esl-europe.net/de/q3/ca/1on1/pm1/cup1/
(u can download demos to or if u need some PM my ass)
GreetzzZzZZz xEnDleSSx----ps. if u think u can beat me in 1on1 CA PM MY ASS 2 (PEACE)
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 18:40:50
i pmmed u

rofl jk
DUTCH stop talking bullshit man. I dont know shit about this player.
And im talking about OSP-->clanarena--->promode 1. DICKHEAD...... and i didnt change my e-mail i just deleted u!!
xEnDleSSx Told :
[cit]DUTCH stop talking bullshit man. I dont know shit about this player. And im talking about OSP-->clanarena--->promode 1. DICKHEAD......
and i didnt change my e-mail i just deleted u!![/cit]
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 19:39:47
OMG ahhaha nice one end

poonage
teh pwned. lolz
It's weird we need to play rematch

. But if ExS has to play 333 again cos of azuriel, then we have to play s8 as well (cause of endless). Simple. But I dont understand None's decision to be honest...
s8 ASKED if they could play me and endless, 333 (the admins) said we could...i dont see how none can change his mind on this now. and if they didnt say anything about azur!al b4 the match, i dont see how they can change their mind on THAT now either. s8 would not have allowed me or endless to play if 333 didnt agree....
Yes, but rules are rules! We must respect it and you too. i think referees can't break rules...
rules are rules?? rules are made by referee's so they can brake them or change them too
adam*pl Told :
Yes, but rules are rules! We must respect it and you too. i think referees can't break rules...
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 20:58:17
show me where in the rules it says we need to play again because a player played who the admins allowed to play during the match adam
use google if u want (K)
Owned by K!NG
DutchDimension Told :
evolution Told :
lol thats bs if you ask me, End doesn't play on efreeze much, only OSP[Clanarena] and hes the best on there from what i've heard and seen. He doesn't seem like a cheater to me, he was teaching some S8 how to play CA, some tricks etc since some of us were new to it. We have to replay the match vs exs? lol.. what about all the times ganja cheated against the clans in the league? Same goes for Ring2.. no matches were replayed then. Is this just some biased shit towards s8 cos' we've won the league? =\ mg lol.
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 00:01:38
Pardon, xENDLESSx isn't the best OSP player around.. Also not in 1.31.. Remember |ToR|^Akz1le? maybe you know him as pR Cha0kzx or ckx. Hey finishes endless off .. But endless is gooood!
Now rofl, crissy fuck off, its s8's problem.. U stop asskissing.. Yeh both sides got fucked in the ass, but u shouldnt go everywhere and tell them how sad u guys are and how hard u own them
(endless used to be in FF clan long time ago... I dont think he cheats!)
EDIT: Endless also was [WoD]*Rune*
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 12:20:01
i just think nones jealoussy is funny n also i gt nuffin beta 2 do
xEnDleSSx Told :
rules are rules?? rules are made by referee's so they can brake them or change them too
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 21:36:09
lol are you really stupid? for example If President steals something, he will face the consequences.
king:
All participants of the 333 League will be expected to follow the league rules, and failure to do so can result in an automatic disqualification/defeat for the clan with the offending individual(s), and in some extreme cases, may even result in expulsion from the league for the offending clan.
ok, we dont need play rematch, u are defeated :P
Omg guys you all need to stfu. 333 organized this league, they put a lot of effort in this and they can do whatever they want

. They can even announce themselves winners without playing all the others. It would be lame but they can do that

. Anyway, your empty talks won't change anything and the decision is up to None so I dont see any point in arguing... peace!
adam*pl Told :
king:
All participants of the 333 League will be expected to follow the league rules, and failure to do so can result in an automatic disqualification/defeat for the clan with the offending individual(s), and in some extreme cases, may even result in expulsion from the league for the offending clan.
ok, we dont need play rematch, u are defeated :P
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 21:56:12
Not really, cuz then exs would already be disqualified since ganja hacked everything that walked on 1.31
It was nice weather today
Mr*K!nG Told :
adam*pl Told :
king:
All participants of the 333 League will be expected to follow the league rules, and failure to do so can result in an automatic disqualification/defeat for the clan with the offending individual(s), and in some extreme cases, may even result in expulsion from the league for the offending clan.
ok, we dont need play rematch, u are defeated :P
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 21:56:12
Not really, cuz then exs would already be disqualified since ganja hacked everything that walked on 1.31
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 22:08:46
u still havent got any proof :P:P:P
:*
Official message: I am waiting for NoNE!
adam*pl Told :
Mr*K!nG Told :
adam*pl Told :
king:
All participants of the 333 League will be expected to follow the league rules, and failure to do so can result in an automatic disqualification/defeat for the clan with the offending individual(s), and in some extreme cases, may even result in expulsion from the league for the offending clan.
ok, we dont need play rematch, u are defeated :P
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 21:56:12
Not really, cuz then exs would already be disqualified since ganja hacked everything that walked on 1.31
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 22:08:46
u still havent got any proof :P:P:P
:*
Official message: I am waiting for NoNE!
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 22:15:13
There are more then 5 clanmatch demos with proof lol :P
now u show me evidence where end cheats
hehehe i think NoNE has demos 
(btw 9, not 10 now
)
adam*pl Told :
hehehe i think NoNE has demos 
(btw 9, not 10 now
)
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 22:23:19
8 :P
DutchDimension Told :
evolution Told :
lol thats bs if you ask me, End doesn't play on efreeze much, only OSP[Clanarena] and hes the best on there from what i've heard and seen. He doesn't seem like a cheater to me, he was teaching some S8 how to play CA, some tricks etc since some of us were new to it. We have to replay the match vs exs? lol.. what about all the times ganja cheated against the clans in the league? Same goes for Ring2.. no matches were replayed then. Is this just some biased shit towards s8 cos' we've won the league? =\ mg lol.
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 00:01:38
Pardon, xENDLESSx isn't the best OSP player around.. Also not in 1.31.. Remember |ToR|^Akz1le? maybe you know him as pR Cha0kzx or ckx. Hey finishes endless off .. But endless is gooood!
Now rofl, crissy fuck off, its s8's problem.. U stop asskissing.. Yeh both sides got fucked in the ass, but u shouldnt go everywhere and tell them how sad u guys are and how hard u own them
(endless used to be in FF clan long time ago... I dont think he cheats!)
EDIT: Endless also was [WoD]*Rune*
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 12:20:01
i find it funny n i gt nuffin better 2 do
xEnDleSSx Told :
rules are rules?? rules are made by referee's so they can brake them or change them too
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 21:36:09
the rules are not rules. they're more like guidelines. :P and btw, the members adding rule sux. all new members sud b allowed 2 ply, even if thy r exs

nonek, league has finished, face it. now NAS is making league which doesn't have gay rules like this one does. s8 win this league, u mite win nxt league :P jus move on now and let it go. if u gt demos of endless cheatin, we wud all like 2 see it. same goes for ganja.
CrissY Told :
xEnDleSSx Told :
rules are rules?? rules are made by referee's so they can brake them or change them too
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 21:36:09
the rules are not rules. they're more like guidelines. :P and btw, the members adding rule sux. all new members sud b allowed 2 ply, even if thy r exs

nonek, league has finished, face it. now NAS is making league which doesn't have gay rules like this one does. s8 win this league, u mite win nxt league :P jus move on now and let it go. if u gt demos of endless cheatin, we wud all like 2 see it. same goes for ganja.
Posted on 19 April 2006 at 22:55:07
Yea none and stop making lame excuses to make us replay matches for nothing cuz we wont
R O F L
Well just my 2 cents about what none said in last post.
First of all our prime interest to take is this league at its fair end. We wanted this league, we (none indeed) spent a lot of time for it and believe me the thing i want now mostly is to finally officially declare the winner. So pls, believe us in that, all none said, and in this he represents all 333 clan, is meant not to disadvantage or advantage some one, its just a way to make things as much fair and equal for every clan. Maybe its not the best way, for sure there is always a better way, but pls believe thats a truly fair attempt to adjust things. I know some will be disapointed while some wont, just try to take it positivelly and honor the league as much as u did so far (and with "u" i mean all the clans who competed honeslty throughtout all the league phases).
Unfortunatelly we found some problems we didnt expect in the organization part (cheaters, a lot unfortunatelly, clans dead, players switching clans during the league ets). As i said maybe we did a bad decision, but we had to do it, so pls accept it the best way u can.
None did the rules, we cannot doubt on his fairity (u should agree in that) , he tried to do everything publicly: now just finish these 2 last matches (that i dont think will change the chart indeed) and finally announce who will deserve to win the league.
Im srry if not everything went as we supposed, we can only learn from mistakes and im sure the next league will be always better. But for sure i can say it was a great experience considering the 2 phases, the amount of clans that competed, the great shows some matches offered and the organization part (u had all demos and screens almost in real tiem after the match). So ty none and ty all clans who competed, now lets just finish it the way it started.
Good luck all, and as always, have fun!!
ciao,stema
well said Stema. This game is supposed to be fun so I am glad we have to play rematches. Our first clan war against s8 was the most exciting and even game in our history and I am happy we can do it again (hopefuly

). Guys try to forget about respect, fame and all that shit you think you will get if you win this league and just try to have some fun. Dunno 'bout you but for me fun is kinda like a meaning of life

.
I still dont believe in replaying matches for nothing and we refuse to play a rematch, we have made arrangements for other wars and have better things to do
and referees shouldnt take a side, none doesnt like us too much as all can see, another reason to refuse
yuh put a default win for exs i dont care i dont gonna play rematc for some stupid decision with no argumentation.
rzr Told :
yuh put a default win for exs i dont care i dont gonna play rematc for some stupid decision with no argumentation.
Well indeed i dont see in the message None wrote that s8vsexs has to be replayed, so i dunno what r u talking about!! None is the main referee so its up to him the last word, but as far i can read he just said:
- Azu was not allowed to play with exs while as far as i know minky and endless asked officially to be admitted, they waited for the necessary time and then they joined the second part of the league. I dunno if none has different details but a couple of days b4 333 vs exs azu wrote a mail still as a sw member. The main aim of the rule is to avoid ppl switching clans only for the league...and a couple of days is too less to assure azu didnt switch only for that. (what if lyor, with different names, joined 5 different clans in all the league? would it be fair? no of course). Ok the rules could have been more spcific on that but in the rules there is also clear that referees can decide and we decided this way, and i personally think its a fair choice. We could have choice to default exs with a loss or to replay the match, we preferred to replay the match probably cos the rules were not 100% clear on that: i think it is a wise choice and i support it.
- We still have to play s8 for the last match, and this is ok.
- Endless is banned from the last game cos of wallhacking with weed in the league. We saw demos we got late, we voted, we all think he cheated in that game (and as for me only in that game of the league), so we altogether decided (as for ganja and ring and the others) to ban him from the rest of the league. No default loss, no dq for the teams as well as for what we did for the other episodes. What coudl u expect more fair than this??We did the same as in the past.
About the last point u can argue we should have said it earlier but u may imagine that a decision like this requires a lot of time and the vote of all OC, so it can be said soon. About enldess caught cheating well, i dont want to say he always cheat or whatever, i just say we saw a demo and we all agreed, maybe we r wrong but thats it, u have to accept it as well as all other clans did. I dont want to judge the person, i dont mind how good one person is, i saw so really good players caught cheating evenif they didnt need it...so im not surprised anymore by anything, im just disappointed.
Finally, i dont think none did something against s8 in particular, nor against other clans. I think he was a great referee honest and loyal, and i had no doubt on that. So i dont think he deserves your accusations king. I overall agree on None's work and i dont hate s8 for sure, so do u want to blam me as well?!come on!
But of course u can say, as every other clan, u dont want to keep playing in the league etc etc. I dont reccomend it cos u r at a single step to the official victory, but of course if u prefer to do it its up to u! Winner will be the clan who wont give up till the end!!
(srry for typos, i dont have time to check my poor english now so take it as it is
)
ciao, stema
ur kinda right about some things stema. The only thing I dont believe is the guy endless chaetin or whatsoever. Plz send me the demos shit so i can take a look at them or sedn lyor. I know lyor knows how to use sound etc just like me so that there will be no doubt about it..
kkty
Endless doesnt cheat, look at the people who are in the OC: none, chee, adam, it would all be better for these people and their clans if section8 would be disqualified or played a clanwar again, so sorry but i dont believe you can judge some1 without taking sides
what i find strange is that all attention goes to endless and not ganja?
whats up with that stema? adam? none? chee?
Or have we all of a sudden forgot about that and only focus on s8 and how to eliminate us from this league
Pathetic
i saw NO proof about ganja cheating in this league ...
about xendlessx i WANT THOSE demos too i bet you made a mistake about him 333 i can t believe he cheats and like i said sometimes we had teamspeak AND WE WERE TELLING HIM WERE TO GO OR NOT !!! unless you show me a demo where xendlessx is aiming at a guy throught a wall i ll wont bilieve what your saying !
for the fair play of the whole league i disagree ! qualifications were in 1.31 and there is a lot of chetaers (you said it yourself) over there (for exemple ring2 sent his cheat prog to some players like king / mad-jak ... king admitted he wasn t happy cause he couldn t get autoshot/autoaim to works ok but still walhacks runed perfectly and mad-jak told me he took it in order to chek ppl .....)
LAME but usual with 1.31 fuckers
anyway xendlessx isn t a cheater SEND ME THOSE FUCKING DEMOS ! i ll wont believe you until i see it with my own eyes
to s8 : i already said it but .... just play it again unless your afraid and stop all that useless talk
cu WeedAssault
Mr*K!nG Told :
what i find strange is that all attention goes to endless and not ganja?
Pathetic
doh? ganja was already banned! as well as ring2 and others! so what do u mean? and for all of them we banned and warned theior clans as soon as we got a united decision.
I repeat: im not interested in judging if someone always cheats or not, im not a policeman and i dont like this work. I only saw a demo and all oc agreed in taking the decision, thats what an OC is supposed to do and we did it: of course u can agree or not, thats clear.Anyway Im proud of the way we managed these situations, cos at least for me, and u know what i think about "banning and kicking" till ages, it was a really hard decision to take.
What u say king hurts me a lot, cos i think the best aim me and 333 have been always trying to achieve is sportmaship, loyalty and the fair going of this community: if i had any doubt on any of the ocs i would have been the first to say something or to leave the oc myself. So i can say im 100% sure that all the work OC did was pure and with the aim to do thier best. Mistakes happens but pls dont think they did something agaist s8, cos if it happened (and i dont think so), it was NOT on purpose. Dunno if u mean what im trying to explain.
As for demos, for sure u will see the one i saw: of course it will be not a pubblic demo release, its not our style, but via mail upon request. Im not sure if i still have that demo but for sure none has.
got to go back to work 
ciao
MariGold Told :
i saw NO proof about ganja cheating in this league ...
well you are not in exs clan so u dont have to be informed about cheat proof, at least not from us. About endles, who did it when he was in weed, u r entitle to see demos form which we based our decision.
for the fair play of the whole league i disagree ! qualifications were in 1.31 and there is a lot of chetaers (you said it yourself) over there
well, i mean what OC did was fair. 333 league wasnt meant to find out so many cheating episodes but it happened...thats why we decided to move to 1.32: i call it an improvement, but of course the league was supposed to be played only in 1.31 at its creation... thats why no rules about 1.32 have been written. I mean somethings had to be changed while going, and only oc could do that.
ciao, stema
MariGold Told :
for the fair play of the whole league i disagree ! qualifications were in 1.31 and there is a lot of chetaers (you said it yourself) over there (for exemple ring2 sent his cheat prog to some players like king / mad-jak ... king admitted he wasn t happy cause he couldn t get autoshot/autoaim to works ok but still walhacks runed perfectly and mad-jak told me he took it in order to chek ppl .....)
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 12:28:34
jep i have a wallhack, so do adam/none and some more peeps, sue me
MariGold Told :
to s8 : i already said it but .... just play it again unless your afraid and stop all that useless talk
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 12:28:34
Will you stop saying this shit, maybe your weed clan is a pathetic assembly of useless players, but that doesnt mean you can start talking nonsense about s8
why didnt u repiled to my post stema 
like i said i want some other guys look at the demo too and make their decision, someoen like lyor and me and some others that are known with playing the game, that are good at finding patterns in someones walking / play , knows how to use the goddamn sound properly.. and other stuff.
I get called wh / hax all the time in the goddamn servers.. so do i hack? no its just i know how people are they sre predictable and ez to hear..
OMFG, LOL !!
U're so DUMB king and other posers as well, now i know why u're
working a part time job since ur 16 king. haha, where the fuck did i say
u're rematching with exs?? Go back to school kids, they'll learn u to read
there .. read my post how much cw's will there be and go visit ur
section 8, there are doctors for retards like u .. oh and king to help u with ur
mental issues, go check the bottom of rules page who are OC's, i see u're
cross-eyed or something ..
and endless, u're getting funny, i'm best in minesweeper .. what does that
proof? u know it good that u cheated ages ago when community here started and u
know u cheated on 1.31 when playing league for weed and also other games,
again on 1.31 .. shooting rockets and using machinegun isn't same as
rail, feel free to do some 1v1 here with me to see what #1 are
u in instagib, oh and well there are plenty of demos, i'm curious
how will u explain those, maybe with another link to some 1.32 all weapons
tourney?
as we lost demos we didn't bring that topic up in public, but we have them
now .. oh and soady was infromed about it when he was still in
weed and u posers were too, especially king, but if u're too dumb to
listen to others, well that's ur problem .. now u have that issue and as u
call all other clans a cheaters, now u are one too 
here are 2 short demos, those are not from the league but our trainings
vs posers .. he needed to be damn good in the posers try out, so he was
the #1 each map ... as league demos need to be resend to me i'll put them
up when i'll get them, best things he did are in leage war weed vs
stars if i'm not wrong, well we'll see it soon 
1st
href="http://quake.abuserz.net/demos/end2.dm_67">2nd
Jesus, what a pathetic show u guys are giving, it's almost like you got to collect the wins and don't have time to play an already won match, please, all of you, join my 1v1 tourney and learn how to lose without crying, win without bragging, you are on your own there. And razer, I've been sending demo's to stema to be sure of cheaters since I started playing, I trust him 100% so my opinion about this demo will most probably not be any different. That's all I have to say.
This demo, what secret game is this? Must be a training =)
Monkey Told :
This demo, what secret game is this? Must be a training =)
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 14:03:27
the person might have been framed?
ok all clear now.
ty for verifying your post none. Just what you wrote u can read on different ways. So thats where all the fuzz is coming from.
Then again when ill get home ill take a look at those demos.
Then lyor ok nevermind what i said. But i would like to have a opinion myself over the demos too so if someonwet could send me the others?
ty none have a nice day =)
btw lyor you know the 1v1 tourney is mine so dont start it!!! 


rzr Told :
ok all clear now.
ty for verifying your post none. Just what you wrote u can read on different ways. So thats where all the fuzz is coming from.
Then again when ill get home ill take a look at those demos.
Then lyor ok nevermind what i said. But i would like to have a opinion myself over the demos too so if someonwet could send me the others?
ty none have a nice day =)
btw lyor you know the 1v1 tourney is mine so dont start it!!! 


Posted on 20 April 2006 at 14:16:10
odds on jaboos will win
NoNe its funny that a player like ur skilz think i cheat.
Ive seen the demos and i can say if i was a noob like u i would think i cheated. But i aint and if u think i give a damn about thinking i cheat gues again. but on that demo i just see some sound working shots. and if u want proof maybe come play 1.32 together? CLAN ARENA STYLE BABY!!!
Demo 2 doesn't seem to start a download when I click it. =\
ehe, that was some nice training we had with 333, i hope next time we can do it again in a real cw, that'd be a good game with the teams at 8 a side or something.
Oh yeah about the demo of dm7, some of the shots I saw end do is possible to do if you listen good enough, i'm glad the camera was on me when I was hiding in the dungeon aswell, except that cheeetos guy got me. Argh, kurwa mac, Cheee! 
/quit
and one more thing.... THANKS none i want more demo's because those are some nice movie frags. (and me thinking u got nothing to give me only big time crying. But i had it wrong. Thx for the demo's)
endless...
Ganja won 1v1 quake2 tourney on lan party long time ago and every one call him cheater! U won 1v1 q3 osp ca not on lan, on internet, so u could use wallhack or other shit.
ow yea one more thing....

if some of u whanne see some nice clan arena (no cheat actions) download my movie ---->http://rapidshare.de/files/18486297/Fragged_by_xEnDleSSx.rar.html <---- not my best frags but its still nice
adam*pl Told :
endless...
Ganja won 1v1 quake2 tourney on lan party long time ago and every one call him cheater! U won 1v1 q3 osp ca not on lan, on internet, so u could use wallhack or other shit.
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 15:33:59
yea just like adam use some wallhack or shit..
btw why isn't the command cg_playwall 1 in this mod implented?
btw kinda funny none that a american guy(minky) and a english guy (evol) cant read english well also, maybe you just didnt wrote it to clear since your native language isnt english.
lol i do have to admit that this sentance was confusing lol
NoNe wrote: "exs gonna play vs us on saturday 8 pm, posers at 8 pm sunday" to me it looked like exs vs. 333 saturday and exs vs. 8 sunday. but i guess it ment exs vs 333 saturday and 8 vs 333 sunday. lol. im going to look at those demos now, get back to u in a bit
ok watched the 1st demo, 2nd doesnt work
I must say the only thing that i was like yea maybe he has some sort of hack was when he came from dungeon to quad.. but then again.. its kinda normal because i would do the same when comming out from the dungeon.. so i dont really see any proof.. minky will explain the other things.. also i wouild like to make a demop of myself and you guys rate it and see what ut hink.. i mean i make a lot of wh shhotsa too then .. when pps are hanging the corners from a entrance or something..
minky Told :
lol i do have to admit that this sentance was confusing lol NoNe wrote: "exs gonna play vs us on saturday 8 pm, posers at 8 pm sunday" to me it looked like exs vs. 333 saturday and exs vs. 8 sunday.back to u in a bit
ooppss! indeed, None, u should admit the sentence wasnt 100% clear!! we already knew it so for us it was clear but not for everybody else!!! now i understand where ppl started the discussion from!! lol!
sorry all then, anyway, of course, nothign changes in what i wrote in my posts: at least now we know where is the misunderstanding and that NO EXS vs S8 will be re-played, but only 333 vs exs
ciao,stema
ok i watched the demo. when i am in a room i aim in the open area where people might appear, and when he shot cheetos it looked like he was just aiming in open area, heard him jump from the upper right from mega and waited for him to appear in the open area. the other kills around the frozen body were ez because he just kept his mouse where cheeetos body was and waited for the thawing noise. and the shot where he killed stema, looked to me just like a spam shot, lol just a lucky rail, *shrugs* im not saying he didnt hack, im just saying that its not TOTALLY OMG HE DID HACK just because of 2 shots in one game...i mean wouldnt u need a little more evidence then just one game? the last 2 minutes of that ONE game also.
Heh, u've got pretty paranoid endless, when there'll be new demos i'm sure u'll break king's posting records yesterday. So why are u offering me and showing us some other mod? is that only where u can kill someone or it's just that u aren't good enough here??
C'mon man u were the best p8 player on 1.31 and as i haven't played now for quiet some time and as i have mouse problems i'm sure i'll lose in 1v1 badly .. we can do a 1v1 on 1.32 with all those people here spectating, recording us and with ur sounds skills, there's no doubt that i won't lose 3-0 with 10-0 ... maaan u'll have me in every corner and as u won't need to focus on other players, that will really be a bad lost for me .. i don't stand a chance vs u man .. Oh, though, i saw something happend to u in 1.32, but i'm almost sure there were just some sound problems for u and that u fixed that already, so when are we gonna play on 1.32 end, ppl wanna know, everyone wanna see me losing 10-0 and ur sound skills, so i see no problem.
p.s.: ty rzr, have a nice day back as well 
none Told :
Heh, u've got pretty paranoid endless, when there'll be new demos i'm sure u'll break king's posting records yesterday. So why are u offering me and showing us some other mod? is that only where u can kill someone or it's just that u aren't good enough here??
C'mon man u were the best p8 player on 1.31 and as i haven't played now for quiet some time and as i have mouse problems i'm sure i'll lose in 1v1 badly .. we can do a 1v1 on 1.32 with all those people here spectating, recording us and with ur sounds skills, there's no doubt that i won't lose 3-0 with 10-0 ... maaan u'll have me in every corner and as u won't need to focus on other players, that will really be a bad lost for me .. i don't stand a chance vs u man .. Oh, though, i saw something happend to u in 1.32, but i'm almost sure there were just some sound problems for u and that u fixed that already, so when are we gonna play on 1.32 end, ppl wanna know, everyone wanna see me losing 10-0 and ur sound skills, so i see no problem.
p.s.: ty rzr, have a nice day back as well 
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 16:46:10
then again i didnt play in that cw and as u know im THE BEST s8 player
minky that' all we had in those 2 demos as we all played, but of course we wouldn't have accussed someone from just some shots .. we have plenty of demos where he does even better stuff .. though now in 1.32 i'm sure he just changed his style as he haven't done such shots yet in 4 or 5 games .. but yea more demos come and he'll reply more posts how good he is in osp 1.32 
though i'm sure he will accept my challenge, i mean we all wanna see that skills, so i don't see a prob here ..
None i really dont give a damn about freeze. i never play it only some clan wars. i'm a clan arena player i went to lan party's won 1on1 matches i played cups on sites. Im n2 in 1on1 ladder. And u a freeze player who doesnt know a dick about quake is saying i cheat. go play clan arena SHOUT my name and the ppl will tell u something els
may we see these "better" demos?
poor baby is refusing my challenge .. like u need to give a fuck for freeze to do a public 1v1 vs me? LOL
Just admit it end and save us some time here, u'll at least keep respect for saying it .
was a typo for the second demo, works now .. but those are shorties
minky, they'll come when i get them, i formated so don't have them atm, soon soon 
rzr, well u wasn't there then, he was best then ;-)
lol 2nd demo is just normal..
omg ahahah none if ur trying to make us believe he cheats, then come with better shit cuz this is worthless lool
maybe you cant make such shots but some of the players actually can
maybe train more ![[lo]](../images/smileys/coucou.gif)
laughing my ASS off on this bullshit
n1 end hehe
rzr Told :
lol 2nd demo is just normal..
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 17:11:38
Think none has special glasses and sees things that we dont hehe
hello hello all !
its so funny here , i have to post something !
I think that a lot here know how to run a wallhack !! so put first demo in a demo folder ( not in efreeze its protected ) , instaunlagged for exxample .
so , look at this demo with a wallhack running ! and after 15 seconds viewing the demo you will understand this man play with wallhack !
i am not at home this evening but i will send screen shots to morrow !
good night !!
sweet13 Told :
hello hello all !
its so funny here , i have to post something !
I think that a lot here know how to run a wallhack !! so put first demo in a demo folder ( not in efreeze its protected ) , instaunlagged for exxample .
so , look at this demo with a wallhack running ! and after 15 seconds viewing the demo you will understand this man play with wallhack !
i am not at home this evening but i will send screen shots to morrow !
good night !!
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 18:55:33
yes for nubs it might look like a wh.. anyway i donmtn even have a wh
So let's make it clear: we have to play 333 again because of azuriel but we won't play s8 eventhought they had endless (YOU think he cheated before, so why wouldn't he cheat on cw vs us?)? He wasnt signed in for s8 and neither was azuriel. Seems very unfair. So we will play either both 333 and s8 or none of them. Let's be serious about this league guys and if you decide to follow some rule, respect it till the end.
sweet13 Told :
hello hello all !
its so funny here , i have to post something !
I think that a lot here know how to run a wallhack !! so put first demo in a demo folder ( not in efreeze its protected ) , instaunlagged for exxample .
so , look at this demo with a wallhack running ! and after 15 seconds viewing the demo you will understand this man play with wallhack !
i am not at home this evening but i will send screen shots to morrow !
good night !!
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 18:55:33
For you everything looks like a wallhack i bet n4b
adam*pl Told :
So let's make it clear: we have to play 333 again because of azuriel but we won't play s8 eventhought they had endless (YOU think he cheated before, so why wouldn't he cheat on cw vs us?)? He wasnt signed in for s8 and neither was azuriel. Seems very unfair. So we will play either both 333 and s8 or none of them. Let's be serious about this league guys and if you decide to follow some rule, respect it till the end.
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 19:19:48
Rules are rules adam. stfu kthxbi
errr but our match was in 1.32 PunkBuster was on
adam*pl Told :
So let's make it clear: we have to play 333 again because of azuriel but we won't play s8 eventhought they had endless (YOU think he cheated before, so why wouldn't he cheat on cw vs us?)? He wasnt signed in for s8 and neither was azuriel. Seems very unfair. So we will play either both 333 and s8 or none of them. Let's be serious about this league guys and if you decide to follow some rule, respect it till the end.
u didnt replayed all the matches in which ganja played so what r u asking for adam? the ban starts only from when OC pick a common decision. That was with u, with dr and with s8. I can only be srry cos we take a lot of time to decide, but we used the same way of acting in all cases. This is what i call it fairness.
Plus, minky and endless waited for the oc approval b4 joiing: i remember minky spectating several matches without playing, then, when allowed, he played. Azu didnt ask anything , thats why things are different.And infact we dont say u lost the match, we only think to repeat the match is the wiser thing.
We always had good and funny wars with exs, if this fact annoys u too much, dont come! i dotn want to play if u r all angry. I just still think this is fair.
im still searching for the demo i firstly see (even if probably looking at the match demo of the war with weed will help as well) anyway the first demo none put here was at least suspicious if seen with wallhack on. To see it this way, for who doesnt know, u just need to open it with FREEZEDT mod and put in console cg_playwall 1
ciao, stema
just 4 posts king? ahh, disapointing 
so how was ur job king? How is cleaning toilets when u're underage? ah don't lie to us now that u work in office, we understand ..
LOL, of course, as we want to boycot posers cos they need to play all matches again or what u said right? haha, wake up from ur dreams boy, spit that cleaning water on ur face a bit ..
and minky, nope, all those demos are from 1.31 and everything was ok in 1.32 .. he should have had some problems there, no such shots, guess was just sound problems .. no worries 
oh what a luck, i have some free time to kill and just found another demo from this training, let's see and post it
argh no words, really no words...
1st
in league, we should replay matches: against dr and against sw but dr&sw died.
2nd
Why GaNjA is banned?
yes i know none, i was talking about the s8 vs exs match that adam wanted to replay. that was on 1.32. im would like to see that new demo yes please. and yes your right stema, i did not play until a 333 admin told me i could
1st: why is that?
2nd: cos we have proofs and u cofirmed them
Soooo, good demo is this new one .. whole play from endless, not some shorties .. well here it is
i assume u're so skilled endless, everything was a skilled shot, but let's explain those shots at walls plz .. oh, though, i dunno how u didn't hear the gauntlet sound at 8:35, but hey, u're god in sound, i'm sure i just have hearings ..
2:20 - LOL! So that's an OSP trick i guess .. U don't shoot at visible players, u better stop, aim the one u don't see, oh i mean perfectly seen for u, and then shot at wall and even make an accurate shot at enemy behind it .. maaaan i need to come and learn such tricks in OSP, should visit that page u gave before and ask how to do that
7:30 - very nice endless, now u're shooting at the floor, too bad though, if player wouldn't be behind it, u would make an accurate shot, superb endy, i'm impressed
8:55 - Oh wait what we have here, so u're hearing players with gauntlet? maaan, now i really must find an osp player to tell me how to do that, cool! So u're exactly aiming at player before and later u just knew he's there .. good job mate, u deserver the "best player ever" title .. i'm honored to know u
peace
1st: that was to stema about replay our matches =P
2nd: ok
3rd: hmmm End how u killed cheetos +- 3:00? :/
Sad 4me situation... End is ( or was... ) my friend and... argh... i have an idea :>
xEnDleSSx Told :
NoNe its funny that a player like ur skilz think i cheat.
Ive seen the demos and i can say if i was a noob like u i would think i cheated. But i aint and if u think i give a damn about thinking i cheat gues again. but on that demo i just see some sound working shots. and if u want proof maybe come play 1.32 together? CLAN ARENA STYLE BABY!!!
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 15:02:29
none, uve been told
oops spoke 2 soon. and so what if king is a janitor. Atlest he doesn't have dikhed written all over his forehead and b4 u ask, i am implying tht. these arguments have gone 2 far. u callled endless a cheat without hard proof at the time, how does tht fit in with ur title as OC and ur description of being fair (self appointed). u tell me?
why the fuck am i posting again...... :/ the 2:20 was just a shot in the hope some 1 was standing there. i do that alot thats why my acc u always so low (dumass)..the 7:30 i heard the motherfucker.... and the 8:55 i was climing up and saw him thats all. u really sude give me some better proof man because this is SHIT proof
Looks crazy, and the lines look like a distraction to.
One big screen would be good though hehe.
xEnDleSSx Told :
why the fuck am i posting again...... :/ the 2:20 was just a shot in the hope some 1 was standing there. i do that alot thats why my acc u always so low (dumass)..the 7:30 i heard the motherfucker.... and the 8:55 i was climing up and saw him thats all. u really sude give me some better proof man because this is SHIT proof
im really srry endless but that demo is good enaugh for me: the shots u did to andi (aiming through wall) and spc (under the steps) would be enaugh for me but we saw many of those shots...too many to call em only "luck" or random shots. At least in my (and oc) opinion.
ciao
LOL endless dude, just admit it, that demo is soooooo funny how bad u use wall hack. u didnt even try to hide it lolllll nice catch stema and none

AHAHA that gauntlet sound at 8:35 = soooo LOUD and he didnt hear it. oh yeah im voting to get him kicked by the way LOL. damn noobs gotta ruin the fun by tryin to cheat -_- sigh...
wow... after seeing that I honnestly dunno what the fuck to say. Some of the shots... especially the one on none when he had the gauntlet in lava and on absinthe when he was well hidden... End
dunno yet, cnt watch em coz im on pda. wen i gt 2 comp i will look, aswe as the people who have alredy. i don't believe endless cheats now, even if he cheated in weed. endless , its jus nxt league game ur banned for, jus takee it and move on. things will b fine.
crissy
actually if u read my post, im voting to kick him lol
LOL i just had to post again cuz its so funny
Hm so it seems all top clans have this problem with cheaters.
Exs with ganja, 333 with nights/tolas and us with endless
i asked for something i had it sorry for doubting none etc...
the third demo is ... the one in the bfg room ... shooting spc throught the wall while he absolutly couldn t see him ... soo obvious
even without playwall 1
but i m still waiting for you to show me a proof that he did that in weed all i see there is about section8
none if you have such evidence for him while he was playing for weed plz send me the demo(s)
Cu SadNessAssault
ps : thx for that command stema it s very usefull
hehe and big thx to king for taking that guy away from my clan !
NB : IF HE DID THE SAME IN WEED I M REALLY REALLY SORRY I DIDN T KNEW IT AND WHEN I SPECTED HIM I SAW NOTHING .... really sorry to all the clans we played with him on our side ... if it appears he did the same with us !
MariGold Told :
ps : thx for that command stema it s very usefull
hehe and big thx to king for taking that guy away from my clan !
Posted on 21 April 2006 at 11:02:18
Hey thats what im here for, to steal your players
xEnDleSSx Told :
None i really dont give a damn about freeze. i never play it only some clan wars. i'm a clan arena player i went to lan party's won 1on1 matches i played cups on sites. Im n2 in 1on1 ladder. And u a freeze player who doesnt know a dick about quake is saying i cheat. go play clan arena SHOUT my name and the ppl will tell u something els
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 16:50:58
Damn Endless, I play OSP to now, I want to learn the tricks like: "How can I look trough walls".. NoNe and me have been training a lot, but still we can't find a way how to look trough walls..
Ofcourse, you can prove that you don't cheat. But everytime that you tried to defend yourself, you showed us some link to the ESL site with #1 xENDLESSx and a photo with some weird dude on it. Maybe you should try to defend yourself with arguments other than: "Come to CLANARENA and shout my name ... " I can only guess what they will shout after seeing the last demo.
"All together: 1,2,3: BUSTEEEED!"
P.S. Minky I love your sportivity! You're a nice honest and fair player.
CrissY Told :
oops spoke 2 soon. and so what if king is a janitor. Atlest he doesn't have dikhed written all over his forehead and b4 u ask, i am implying tht. these arguments have gone 2 far. u callled endless a cheat without hard proof at the time, how does tht fit in with ur title as OC and ur description of being fair (self appointed). u tell me?
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 23:33:55
Fuck it man, Crissy... When do you stop asskissing and start being a realist. For what you call a fair player a "dickhead"? Because he busted a player who cheated? Pfff. He HAS hard proof, maybe you overread it? Oh god please stop asskissing section8.. However, I think K1nG has a free spot in section8.
Normally I would give cheaters a second chance.. Players like Tolas/Ring2 and many more. That's because they admitted that they've cheated, and that they wouldn't do it again. But you .. defending cheaters on and on now crissy.. Give it a break, Endless cheated! There is hard proof but he still denies it. That's it for me..
Mr*K!nG Told :
Hm so it seems all top clans have this problem with cheaters.
Exs with ganja, 333 with nights/tolas and us with endless
Posted on 21 April 2006 at 10:38:34
ToR with Lonley.. But he wallhacked and got busted by some other ToR.. Kicked right away, never heard of him in freezeinsta again.. That's the way to deal with cheaters.
Greetings,
Janick "DutchD"
Mr*K!nG Told :
Hm so it seems all top clans have this problem with cheaters.
Exs with ganja, 333 with nights/tolas and us with endless
welcome in the club then

the only problem is that we, 333, always have to be the policemen, investigate, fight with clan mates, write 24 pages of posts lol! and u know, i personally dont like this role. Maybe with the help of ALL clan leaders we will be able get rid of cheaters in a more fast and effective way, thats my wish and my request of help to all of u. In front of a cheating doubt we should be all united despite the clan membership.
Anyway i also understand that someone can do mistakes (who cheats and who accuse of course); this is a game, meant to be fun, so pls now just lets stop talking about it. Who cheated once is not banned from this community forever: if he wants to restart playing here without cheats he will be always welcome.
ciao, stema
Mr*K!nG Told :
sweet13 Told :
hello hello all !
its so funny here , i have to post something !
I think that a lot here know how to run a wallhack !! so put first demo in a demo folder ( not in efreeze its protected ) , instaunlagged for exxample .
so , look at this demo with a wallhack running ! and after 15 seconds viewing the demo you will understand this man play with wallhack !
i am not at home this evening but i will send screen shots to morrow !
good night !!
For you everything looks like a wallhack i bet n4b 
yes king , yes !
first see another time the begining of the 1st demo none sent !
after look at this bad quality mov , sorry , i did it with my weeb cam ! but you can stop and rewind and replay as you want !
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/sari/hr/weed1/xend.WMV
as i said , 15 seconds are enough , .....
DutchDimension Told :
xEnDleSSx Told :
None i really dont give a damn about freeze. i never play it only some clan wars. i'm a clan arena player i went to lan party's won 1on1 matches i played cups on sites. Im n2 in 1on1 ladder. And u a freeze player who doesnt know a dick about quake is saying i cheat. go play clan arena SHOUT my name and the ppl will tell u something els
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 16:50:58
Damn Endless, I play OSP to now, I want to learn the tricks like: "How can I look trough walls".. NoNe and me have been training a lot, but still we can't find a way how to look trough walls..
Ofcourse, you can prove that you don't cheat. But everytime that you tried to defend yourself, you showed us some link to the ESL site with #1 xENDLESSx and a photo with some weird dude on it. Maybe you should try to defend yourself with arguments other than: "Come to CLANARENA and shout my name ... " I can only guess what they will shout after seeing the last demo.
"All together: 1,2,3: BUSTEEEED!"
P.S. Minky I love your sportivity! You're a nice honest and fair player.
CrissY Told :
oops spoke 2 soon. and so what if king is a janitor. Atlest he doesn't have dikhed written all over his forehead and b4 u ask, i am implying tht. these arguments have gone 2 far. u callled endless a cheat without hard proof at the time, how does tht fit in with ur title as OC and ur description of being fair (self appointed). u tell me?
Posted on 20 April 2006 at 23:33:55
Fuck it man, Crissy... When do you stop asskissing and start being a realist. For what you call a fair player a "dickhead"? Because he busted a player who cheated? Pfff. He HAS hard proof, maybe you overread it? Oh god please stop asskissing section8.. However, I think K1nG has a free spot in section8.
Normally I would give cheaters a second chance.. Players like Tolas/Ring2 and many more. That's because they admitted that they've cheated, and that they wouldn't do it again. But you .. defending cheaters on and on now crissy.. Give it a break, Endless cheated! There is hard proof but he still denies it. That's it for me..
Mr*K!nG Told :
Hm so it seems all top clans have this problem with cheaters.
Exs with ganja, 333 with nights/tolas and us with endless
Posted on 21 April 2006 at 10:38:34
ToR with Lonley.. But he wallhacked and got busted by some other ToR.. Kicked right away, never heard of him in freezeinsta again.. That's the way to deal with cheaters.
Greetings,
Janick "DutchD"
Posted on 21 April 2006 at 11:46:57
If u see my last post, i am hardly defending cheaters
Stema Told :
Mr*K!nG Told :
Hm so it seems all top clans have this problem with cheaters.
Exs with ganja, 333 with nights/tolas and us with endless
welcome in the club then

the only problem is that we, 333, always have to be the policemen, investigate, fight with clan mates, write 24 pages of posts lol! and u know, i personally dont like this role. Maybe with the help of ALL clan leaders we will be able get rid of cheaters in a more fast and effective way, thats my wish and my request of help to all of u. In front of a cheating doubt we should be all united despite the clan membership.
Anyway i also understand that someone can do mistakes (who cheats and who accuse of course); this is a game, meant to be fun, so pls now just lets stop talking about it. Who cheated once is not banned from this community forever: if he wants to restart playing here without cheats he will be always welcome.
ciao, stema
Posted on 21 April 2006 at 11:55:31
Hehe stema always the forgiver

your the one that made this community and is keeping it running man
thx
Hehe true, Stema is the kindest person in this community, wouldn't be the same without Stemo'
Stema is the biggest cheater of all times!
you all crucified None for saying that Endless cheated, saying how he is jealous of s8, or how he wants s8 to be DQ...blah blah blah.
well firstly it wasnt just him who came to this decision, it was all of the OCs. secondly, its time the rest of you stop critizing us (333)when we make an unpopular decision. we arent biased or unfair, and we never have been. we do more for this community than any other clan and its sad when people start slagging us off, whether as an individual or as a group.
we are one of the fairest and honest clans around, so i find it strange that when we say someone cheats, that people instantly jump on our backs. we never make a claim like that unless we are 110% sure and have the proof to back up our claims. so please, if there is a next time, take the time to listen to us and investigate the evidence, rather than blindly insult us or ignore us. we have investigated and caught more cheaters than any other clan, including our own players, cos we want this community to be fair and fun.
as Stema said, it would help if other clan leaders take some responsibility too.
and some of you should apologise to None for insulting him when he said Endless cheated.
i apologize if my posts came off that way, but i just posted about how he was kicking endless without giving us proof first

and the first two demos, were kinda of iffy, you couldnt really tell...but the last demo was definatly enough

also since i started this game in 1.32, i have not had the chance to see how people play with wallhacks EVER, i needed these demos and they were very usefull. again i say gj stema and none
thanks Minky, i appreciate your post a lot, even though i dont think you did anything wrong! :-) Take care.
yo hitman
well i didn t insult none or whatever i think i just asked to see those proofs cause i was surprised and that s all (error is a human thing)
i know 333 are cool guys , i didn t want to bother you ... and i already said sorry to none for doubted him in a previous post i made 1-2 pages ago
now i saw it and xendlessx confirmed so ... it s all over (he confirmed me too that he DIDN T cheat when he was in weed ... now it s up to you guys to prove me i m wrong to still trust him)
ciao WeedAssault
ps : http://www.koreus.com/media/slamball.html
http://www.koreus.com/files/2003/david-elsewhere-kollaboration-2001.html
http://www.devilducky.com/media/13782/
MariGold Told :
yo hitman
well i didn t insult none or whatever i think i just asked to see those proofs cause i was surprised and that s all (error is a human thing)
i know 333 are cool guys , i didn t want to bother you ... and i already said sorry to none for doubted him in a previous post i made 1-2 pages ago
now i saw it and xendlessx confirmed so ... it s all over (he confirmed me too that he DIDN T cheat when he was in weed ... now it s up to you guys to prove me i m wrong to still trust him)
ciao WeedAssault
After all the messages of symphatie which he posted on this site , I think that we all are persuaded that this guy is honest, and his word is of gold ,
and to prove something does not interest anybody !

ok i read mostly all post havent seen demo3 yet but as far as i can read atm i think he cheated.. but i wont jump in conclusions before i saw the demo but i trust minkys post so i think i have to agree with minky
Hitman Told :
you all crucified None for saying that Endless cheated, saying how he is jealous of s8, or how he wants s8 to be DQ...blah blah blah.
well firstly it wasnt just him who came to this decision, it was all of the OCs. secondly, its time the rest of you stop critizing us (333)when we make an unpopular decision. we arent biased or unfair, and we never have been. we do more for this community than any other clan and its sad when people start slagging us off, whether as an individual or as a group.
we are one of the fairest and honest clans around, so i find it strange that when we say someone cheats, that people instantly jump on our backs. we never make a claim like that unless we are 110% sure and have the proof to back up our claims. so please, if there is a next time, take the time to listen to us and investigate the evidence, rather than blindly insult us or ignore us. we have investigated and caught more cheaters than any other clan, including our own players, cos we want this community to be fair and fun.
as Stema said, it would help if other clan leaders take some responsibility too.
and some of you should apologise to None for insulting him when he said Endless cheated.
Posted on 21 April 2006 at 14:52:41
Hail to the Hitman!
GheGheGhe, 333 the policemen!
Officer Stema :P: "Agent NoNek, you've caught some punks yet?"
- Yes m'am
im sry if i crushed u all. my friendship + disbelief of endless cheating misguided my judgement. therefore i give an official apology to none + the rest of 333. sry i doubted u guys
k guys..
1 thing .. u shouldnt only c end as the bad guy now

he can b nice m8 2. And after i saw the demo and heard all this i watched him in CA as that is the only mod he really likes

saw that there wasnt any cheat. For the freeze thing i gotta agree and have to tell u that end wont play that mod anymore. well.. he seems half sorry half amazed how he did all that but he also assured me that he only used the hack in s8 and last weed cw (and i believe him there whatever u think

)
peace guys
Cya onlinE
yeh lol he send me PM to appologize about his cheating and stuff... :S But he said he only did it like 3 or 4 times, and that he never cheated or will cheat in CA.
Ah well, he cheated here.. enough for me
I agree with you doomy 
End is good friend and clan arena player. He doesnt cheat on osp ca. Maybe he doesnt like freeze and that is cause why he cheated a few times.
ok ok ok ill come out!
I CHEAT!!!!!! ROFLZ
Ya, demos are avalible, ask at reception plz on the way out, ty.
lol doomy, here we only asumed tht he cheated in weed and tryout for s8, lol
i was just wondering, what would happen if none usad wallhack? coz he is head of OC or summat like tht coz who will look into it?
sry, didn't mean 2 offend u
i was just wondering, what would happen if none usad wallhack? coz he is head of OC or summat like tht coz who will look into it?
sry, didn't mean 2 offend u
adam*pl Told :
I agree with you doomy 
End is good friend and clan arena player. He doesnt cheat on osp ca. Maybe he doesnt like freeze and that is cause why he cheated a few times.
Posted on 22 April 2006 at 00:18:37
so he fucked us all.. Not liking a mod is no reason to cheat in it..
evolution Told :
Ya, demos are avalible, ask at reception plz on the way out, ty.
lol!! anyway nice cup u made evol!! lol!! but u still have to win it!!! anyway i think i will grab the gif out cos i like it!! this will be the official prize for the winners...but we will know winners only sunday nigth!!! 
ciao, stema
last league info are :
Sunday (9.4)
17:00 (CET) :: S8 vs SW
20:00 (CET) :: 333 vs ExS
and xendlessx banned !
now ? what the following ?
it is 15:36 gmt+1 and no info about match on my mail...
i think i can have problems to get 5 players in 5 hours...
adam*pl Told :
it is 15:36 gmt+1 and no info about match on my mail...
i think i can have problems to get 5 players in 5 hours...
Posted on 22 April 2006 at 15:37:07
Havent received a mail from OC either
I have to make a complain. I mean we didn't get email from OC about our cw. And dont say it was posted here cause 333 forum isn't the source of information about clan wars. Especially in this topic. I found out about this game 5 minutes after it started. I know it was said on this forum but you were supposed to mail password and all the other details to leaders at least 2 days before the clan war. I hope it was simple mistake, not lame try to screw us and win by w/o. And what happened to the server by the way? When we play this game AGAIN make sure you inform us beforehand. Yours truly Mad
And as far as I know you were supposed to mail us before the game. Besides we gave you my email adress and adam's to be sure the info will get to other players. And noone told me.
We have the same problem like you mad, i didnt receive a mail from OC, so as far as we are concerned there is no match tomorrow
*Mad* Told :
And as far as I know you were supposed to mail us before the game. Besides we gave you my email adress and adam's to be sure the info will get to other players. And noone told me.
Posted on 22 April 2006 at 21:03:28
i read in the mail...
from none: "and i've reformatted my comp so can you give this to the others too plz" - means adam was meant to send it to you..
well, u knew in advance we had to finish the league, so i think u could manage to play this weekend (we played every weekend) with _only_ 5 days to prepare a team, u all read the forums come on, and anyway we had _only_ 5 days as well. And in fact u exs showed up, but "dunno why" the server crashed on 1-0 for us (5-1 for exs in the second round)...
On the other side u king are acting a bit chilidish imho, well at least u could have been more flexible and make the last effort to finish this leage with honor. U prefer not to play? ok, i dont agree with your behaviour, but i respect your decision.
So i think anyway we have Section8 as winner, cos they beat 2 times exs and once 333, even if exs had won vs us, and we had won vs s8, the winners would have been still s8. Thats cos from 5 teams we finished with only 3.
So congratulations to the winners: S8 clan!
tomorrow i will officialy close the league and declare the winner in our home page!!
ciao,stema
Well anyway, we've decided to finish the league now, we already have a winner and as u don't wanna play tomorrow it's not even important about it .. we got too busy now at the end, we got pretty unactive so let's finish this .. congrat posers for the win, i'm glad bad cheaters were revealed and mad, i'll send u an email about the stuff we talked there, so we won't spam here with it ;-) ok guys was fun and maybe again someday, i'm off for some time now, duty calls :-)
edit: oh just saw stema wrote about it, so there u go with more info ..
Ok so the league is over I guess. Congrats to s8, you deserved to win guys. Also we would like to thank 333 for organizing. You made a big effort to make it work and we really aprecciate it. Thanks guys for all the hard work and for the fun we had during last months.
=)
Nice league 333, shame about the cheating fags but except from that it was all good and fun, I hope another clan arranges a league soon hehe, I think we might be but lets see.
Well played to all clans, n1 S8, and special thanks to 333. 
thx !333! for organisation.. ggz all wp
gg all, looking forward to a new league
none Told :
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ok guys was fun and maybe again someday, i'm off for some time now, duty calls :-)
bb Brat =) ![[lo]](../images/smileys/coucou.gif)
too many cheats in my opinion.
I'm just glad the real league games were on 1.32. <3
again, n1 for that 333. 
Nice to see my pic of the sexy cup is on the main page of the site to, ty stem.
