Europe Extreme Elite

Could anyone possibly explain me, how this god damn osp mode works ? Since no1 has answered me on the HoD forums yet, I'm asking here.. because I'm really pissed off and I think I'm not the only one in bad mood right now..

What had happened that tdm masters was replaced by this osp freaky thing ? Why does seem to me as a childish mod for not_really_skilled people ? .. I mean the hook and how easy it is to hit enemies and.. uhm..

Well, the worse thing is 'team lock'. For God's sake, is it okay that some guy named |CaF|Ev1l locks him team on a public server, kicks me several times and finally calls me 'fucking newbie'.. all this within 30 seconds after I connected.. and I was not the only one abused this way.. HUH!

Man, Stemy.. don't even think about doing the same thing with your server, not only would I leave q3 but I'd also go to Italy, find your ass and kill you with my bare gal hands, I promise!

VRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

idd its a very sucky mod for freeze (in server mode - client mode is fine cos doesnt interupt anything...)
i donno what differences in the server cfg or whatever are...

best thing to do, i guess, is to play on stemas until it changes back...cos it really is sucky for servers...

also idd thats another prob - the lamers who lock thier teams...just pure annoying...

protest to poison? i donno...

ciao

No worries, I've already tried protesting.. as a response I can't connect to HoD forums

whats the diffrce in osp all i notice is it look like the old school freeze

unless settings are changed and u have the full pk3 than not much - except gameplay..but it still sucks ass

lmfao cathy u having a bad day hon

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........



no chance sry....



if u dont like my servers, i am sry... i never heared someone say THIS MOD SUCK on the osp...



i dont want discussing, its my server ...



Auto

Well, I've heard more than a few people say that just today, when they realised masters are gone.. but as you said, your servers and not my bussines..

I just can't see the point in having 2 osp servers, could you tell me why, please ?

hmm I dunno it all so can i ask what happens when some1 locks the team? Sounds weird... Now hod is all osp I guess 333 server will be crouwded even more :S Auto u basterd!

u only like me if i make all thinks right... making me sad :/

i am afraid, without my servers i would be a nobody here...



The Bastard :`(

That's bullshit Poison, I like you and I will like you no matter the servers

It's just that not many ppl around here understand why do we have to have 2 osp servers ? Ain't one enough for those, who enjoy playing osp ( and there's not many osp lovers ) ?

I can't see the point.. people loved masters server as it was, I haven't heard anyone pleading for osp so why ?

 

Edit: Missy: I'm not sure how it works either.. as I've already said, there was a guy from CaF clan today who kept abusing ppl and acutally prevented me and some other from playing on a public server by kicking us and locking teams..

lock teams?? never heared about that lol & my opinion about osp: it sux ass

maby u should of had a vote first about what people like freeze of osp or well its your server u do what ever u think is best what ever mod u like is good for me can i ask what makes u like osp more than normal freeze please

Steven Told :

lock teams?? never heared about that lol & my opinion about osp: it sux ass

Posted on 27 February 2005 at 01:09:15

lock teams is basically once ur in a team u type /lock or so and it becomes shut to all until the player unlocks it or they leave (if they're the only player)

idd a vote would have been better but meh as u said ur servs ur rules..

Maybe OSP is better than FIU, but too much people can't play at this mod, but they have too high ping

My computer is too week for OSP mod. I can't play at this. I can play only at FIU, but in 333's server i have too high ping for game

Well i dont think u get as many people playing as u did with tdm.

MAn its a faster config, u even have mcuh better ping

just make /snaps 40 (or 50) /cl_maxpackets 100 /rate 20000 !

and i dont think the mod need more power...

and the servers are full everytime...

ok, first I thaught bad about this OSP, but it isnt that bad, if it has anti-cheat I think we should apply it to all servers, but thats just my opinion

Well, yeah, I must agree with King in a way.. osp is seems somehow weird to me but I've been testing in a lot during the weekend and it has some + for sure..

i dont see as meny in the ops servers as i did with the tmd masters but i think it will take time to get used to it im not a big fan of ops at the moment as i just suck at it even more than normal freeze hard to belive lol but im willing to give it a try and see what the big with about it maby if i dont like it after a week i will only play on 333 server but we all need to find out if we like it first i dont like it cause i suck at the moment but when i play it for about 1/2 days i will own (i hope)

nice to some have changed theire oppinion! And i will make my best to make osp feel like the old freeze and better! And, try the pure server! Download 1.03a OSP and the hodmappack1 on our homepage!!

thanx for all the trouble there poison

Heeej Master Quakers

I kinda dislike OSP.. it plays strange, and there not many peepz on it.. BTW the walking ... on OSP is soooo SLOWWWWWWW.. and yes i had always run on...

But the hook is faster .... as well i dont see many changes with old Freeze... that ICE thingie sucks to..

Greetz Demo

does ops got a anti cheat thing on it or is that only freeze td how i still h8 freeze td h8 the map h8 the mod dont know whats diffrent with the mod but dont like it maby it dont like me im crap on 1v1

+ my auto shooter 289.5 dont work there i got to use 12.3 and that sucks

Just like freezeDT n its a pure server i think, n as i guessed no1 plays on the pure server just unpure:P wonder y

the fast hook is really an advantage to the spider peeps under us

well i go try the server soon, but at the story's i hear here the psy of the server is differend. but i dont understand why you changed this poision, OSP is a tournament mod with exstra functions and its capable of making the same PSY as normal freeze, so why its changed.


we already tried osp in the passed and we concluded back than that it visualy sucked and its not a good alternative for freeze. its a nice mod but not for freeze.


about the locking of teams this should be a admin function not a player function.


generaly i like osp all wapons, i like osp client but i dont like osp freeze server!!



the walking is so slow because its set as normal quake i think its 320 psu wile freeze is 400 psu, this will explain why it seems you go faster wile using grapple cos the difference between the grapple speed and the movement speed is faster.



and for the ones who are intrested in it OSP got NO anti cheating!!

Not that it would matter at all, when I came home from work today, I couldn't find neither Stemy's nor HoD servers, later I found HoD OSPs but with 260+ ping..

That's a sign from somewhere above us that I should leave q3 and do something useful

hey its only in test! If you dont like things i can fix it! I fixed many things! (Mapchange, unfreezetime, some ping stuff,....)

And hey, if nobody like here, we move to 1.32 .. thats it...

lol cathy, btw a disadvantage of OSP is that you cant spec the enemy team, that way ull never bust cheaters

Hey man i've a big problem,when i play in osp mod there is always a fucked write in console that say :

Warning :Re_addPolyToScene: NULL poly shader

Che cazzo significa??What cazzo means this?help me plz,i can't play.

PS,i 've the osp 1.3a...who help me???

i have 2M/768 kbis/s ..if i start server , how much ppl can play there ?

D0Lph1N Told :

i have 2M/768 kbis/s ..if i start server , how much ppl can play there ?

Posted on 01 March 2005 at 11:35:27


i think 8 should be possible mabey up to 10 just try

Cathy Told :

Not that it would matter at all, when I came home from work today, I couldn't find neither Stemy's nor HoD servers, later I found HoD OSPs but with 260+ ping..

That's a sign from somewhere above us that I should leave q3 and do something useful

Posted on 28 February 2005 at 23:31:36

nooooooooo cathy you must not leave (((((((((((((((((((((((((((( not now not ever !!!

p0isoN Told :

hey its only in test! If you dont like things i can fix it! I fixed many things! (Mapchange, unfreezetime, some ping stuff,....)

And hey, if nobody like here, we move to 1.32 .. thats it...

Posted on 01 March 2005 at 05:46:45


oke, here is my list of things that are differend from normal freeze:




g_speed is not 400 (official freeze) or 375 (stema server) but 320. the grapple speed is the same as in freeze dt with is fast some like many dont, but you can deside to keep this grapple speed but the movement speed and grapple speed must imo be closer together.


an anoying thing is the instand spawn after a unfreeze and end of round. make here like 10 - 15 seconds delay in small maps you onley get spawnfrags and telefrags cos there are to less spawnpoints for the players.



the ping well i saw lots of laggers in the server and my scorebord ping was bad to but i my real ping was not visible for some reson.



i did not see the lockteam beeeing used but this should be a admin tool not a player tool.



the unfreezetime seems shorter but it can be imagination.



the not spectating enemy is a miner point when facing campers and possible cheaters.


this are my points hope you do something with it, changing a mod is not bad but changing all psy in the game is frustrating cos everyone should relearn how to play, also it sucks to have 2 psy in one game. cos when playing wars you also have to agree if you play osp psy or normal freeze psy.

Kose Told :

Hey man i've a big problem,when i play in osp mod there is always a fucked write in console that say :

Warning :Re_addPolyToScene: NULL poly shader

Che cazzo significa??What cazzo means this?help me plz,i can't play.

PS,i 've the osp 1.3a...who help me???

Posted on 01 March 2005 at 11:34:50



Q: It spams "Warning: RE_AddPolytoScene: Null Polyshader" to my console!?!



A: Q3F and Quake 1.29f are much more stringent on checking pakfiles now. More than likely what has happened is you have an older mod somewhere that is replacing some shaders in memory and you're getting all sorts of ugly looking graphics. Our recommendation is to just bite the bullet and install Q3A to a *NEW* directory. In most cases if you reinstall Q3A, install 1.29f, then install Q3F beta 1h. Most, if not all, of your graphics wierdness will go away.



If you are having this problem, remove all non-id pk3 files from your baseq3 folder. Id pk3 files are titled pakX.pk3, where X is a number between 0 and 9. The most current Id pak file is pak5.pk3. Also remove all non-q3f pk3 files from your q3f folder. Q3F pk3 files are named as q3f_beta_?.pk3, where the ? is the version number of that pk3.



other mod other version but the solution mabey try it once.


rebtor is back spamming this forum!!!

Heeeeeelp .. I've had horrible pings everywhere since yesterdays evening .. like 300+ to HoD and 333 servers.. for no reason.. but there are lot's of german servers in ASE where I have pings below 50, even USA servers are now better for me ? What had happened?

Do a check on ya line maybe

http://www.dslreports.com/tools

Ty Rebtor,now pure server work..but unpure no work..lol,now try to delete some graphics effects.

And downlaod the mappack! If you want to paly on pure it ist needed because all maps in cylce:

http://neapel132.server4free.de/hodmappack1.zip

Cathy Told :

Heeeeeelp .. I've had horrible pings everywhere since yesterdays evening .. like 300+ to HoD and 333 servers.. for no reason.. but there are lot's of german servers in ASE where I have pings below 50, even USA servers are now better for me ? What had happened?

Posted on 01 March 2005 at 14:14:57


are those other servers the same mod cathy, if not mabey you somehow fucked up your mod settings for freeze and osp (every mod got its own network settings). by a crapy rate or snaps.
just enter 333 server and type \rate 25000 and \snaps 40 in console and look if its getting better.



if this does not work you can try to move out the q3config file out of the instaunlagged folder and start quake again, this will delete your settings, reconfigure your mod and try again.



if that does not work reinstall quake and the mods.

Kose Told :

Ty Rebtor,now pure server work..but unpure no work..lol,now try to delete some graphics effects.

Posted on 01 March 2005 at 19:05:04

well there are proberbly a few "wrong" files in the basiq3 folder, pure server does not look at them but the unpure will try to load them and spams you with this error.

p0isoN Told :

And downlaod the mappack! If you want to paly on pure it ist needed because all maps in cylce:

http://neapel132.server4free.de/hodmappack1.zip

Posted on 01 March 2005 at 20:49:56

oke poision i will install this mappack, i hope you listen to some of my points of arguements in this topic.

p0isoN Told :

...., if nobody like here, we move to 1.32 .. thats it... ,...

Posted on 01 March 2005 at 05:46:45


That'd be great!

No, it wouldn't be

poision you can move but your servers stay here :P:P:P:P:P

we cant go fast enough to 1.32, what are we waiting for?

this is the 1.31 euro freeze community, we will fall apart when moving this community is build here grown here. what do you think to change when your on 1.32. cheating is also a there punkbuster can make it less but as long as there are sites with 101 quake3 cheats on it and with some program skill you can make a bot that cant be found in punkbuster in 10 minutes there is not any reson why we move and lose a big part of this community . the onley benefit for some is that freezedt is stable there.

Ermm, sometimes I get this message:

runt packet from: bla.bla.bla.bla ( HoD osp ip.. )

.. and I get kicked afterwards.. why ? Can I fix it somehow ?

lol I now love the fast hook of OSP, it sux to play in hod osp servers and then switch to 333 server, feels different, slower.
yo poison, why going 1.32, it really sux out there man, high pings and things. Even the loonies went 1.32 but came back cuz of the high pings.

LOL, you don't understand, there are no europeans iFT servers on there, thats why the high ping, we didn't really "move back", we still play there, but it was just less attractive if we have 148 ping. This is not weird though, because the servers are all an ocean away. We will have better pings on 1.32 if hod moves there because the maxpackets are not limited to 100, but to 125 --> even smoother game play. I dunno, poison must do what he likes, i wouldn't like the have whining people all over me all the time.

lol, yea there're no IFT (insta freeze tag) servers on 1.32 which are located in europe .. only all weapons .. but there's a very big community in USA, so there's where we play and that's why we have higher pings .. go on EMS or FU2 server here and it will be the same ..

if servers will go to 1.32, more than half of community will be gone, if u all want that, then why not, at the end it's up to u ..

about osp, it's not that bad, lot's of settings and stuff, i even think u can set what will be the lowest maxpackets for clients poison, check that .. just the walking could be like on stema's server, just change the variable and that's it .. :-)

cya around

Well I dont want it but who cares about me. Its up to the leaders and the owners of the servers. If they wanne go to 1.32 than so be it. I cant go to there and many more but if this happens we'll just find another game to play in our spare time

well if servers go to 1.32 then 1.30 is still living just need to turn on auto download to see the servers they have euro servers there

Since no1 has answered me on the HoD forums, I'm asking here again..

HoD servers are public servers, right ? So how come ANYONE can lock and unlock teams ? It happens very often that there are like 10 players, but just 4 of them are playing and the others have to spectate because teams are locked..

The second thing is hook.. soon as I got used to faster hook I found the osp with no hook at all.. some of the HoD guys came and fixed it for a while but.. uhm.. you know what I mean..

Why does |CaF|Ev1l have referee password ? I mean this guy is none of a 'cool' player ( neither skill nor behaviour ), I'm really sick of his 'lol you noobs lol', locking teams and kicking players.. huh!

I hope autoexec answers this, somehow..

if we were all still playing on freeze servers none of this would be happening (HintHint)

Cathy Told :

Since no1 has answered me on the HoD forums, I'm asking here again..

HoD servers are public servers, right ? So how come ANYONE can lock and unlock teams ? It happens very often that there are like 10 players, but just 4 of them are playing and the others have to spectate because teams are locked..

The second thing is hook.. soon as I got used to faster hook I found the osp with no hook at all.. some of the HoD guys came and fixed it for a while but.. uhm.. you know what I mean..

Why does |CaF|Ev1l have referee password ? I mean this guy is none of a 'cool' player ( neither skill nor behaviour ), I'm really sick of his 'lol you noobs lol', locking teams and kicking players.. huh!

I hope autoexec answers this, somehow..

Posted on 03 March 2005 at 14:19:14




Man i dont find a way to make the lcoking away, tehre is always one palyer taht can lock

and i changed the ref 3 times, when evil kicked last time???

btw, i will ban him....





but thx for informations, i do my best to make you good game....

Missy Told :

I cant go to there and many more but if this happens we'll just find another game to play in our spare time

Posted on 03 March 2005 at 12:59:18



Wanna play pacman? :P

Mr*K!nG Told :

Missy Told :

I cant go to there and many more but if this happens we'll just find another game to play in our spare time

Posted on 03 March 2005 at 12:59:18
Wanna play pacman? :P

Posted on 03 March 2005 at 15:11:09

lol funny king but hmmm im sure pacman would be better for you atleast your gfx card could run it ok lol

y not get your self a Ge Force 6800

that will not struggle to play q3 like yours does now lol

SIT DOWNNN

cuz with my old ass gfx card I see every1 walking in slowmotion, so easier for me to hit

oeps now u know my secret lol

Thanks a lot Poison, I'm sure you do your best and i'm very grateful for that, too..

Anyway, I used to say 'osp sucks' and actually the pure server really is somehow weird.. but after some time I started to like the unpure HoD osp and I have to agree with King on that it's really strange and sometimes almost impossible to switch from osp to Stemy's server, for I feel like I don't move at all there

Thanks to the faster hook, playing osp is a bit more action and therefore more fun as well.. the other thing is the player cap is 16, which seems optimal to me.. 333 server is sometimes just too crowded ( c'mon, 12v12 is chaotic deathmatch, all you need to know is how to press fire and moveforward button )

I hope HoD don't move to 1.32, I'd miss them

WoW!
i am very happy now Thy Cathy my dear!

I hope soon u will all see the pro of the mod.
and is tehre anything you dont like ... dont say :"Suckkkkkkkkkkkk" say "There is one thing... could you do sth ?" then we will fast become a new good mod and a new age of freeze

keep on testing!



Auto

Hmm

been playing it a bit more now...

tbh still not on my + side..


i donno what it is but it seems my shots lag (even with my normal ping + fps + all good settings + against cl_maxpackets 100 peeps) im kinda confused at that..

also i donno if this is just me or so but thaws seem to take longer? the amount of times in just one map ive been killed cos ive had to stand there for 6 secs or so...

meh..

oh btw a lil something i used to check others settings (now available cos of osp) /players - gives their conn settings..