Europe Extreme Elite

I know this sounds strange but can we change the server to 1.32?...

There are some pb servers in 1.32 that work without pass...for those who haven't ...maybe Stema could be one of them too .

It'll be a great idea :P

100% Up for that

Better phsyics so movement can own more ++ The other freezers are there..So if u wanted could expand alot more...

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U'd have to take off pb tho or alot wont be able to join...Alot of peeps dont have an orig q3 disc and with pb on itd see no guid from their orig code and then kick....*Spent over 2 hours with a m8 of mine tryin to get him into a serv...Eventually worked but took so much time + dont remember how we did lol*


As with all ideas, pros and conns....So make ur choice

there are a few servers on 1.32 wo run punkbuster and don't need a original key. punkbuster would for me be the onley reson to quit 1.31 and start playing 1.32. but there are to less servers on 1.32 with punkbuster who don't need key's

if u cant use pb, why moving on 1.32 then?

freeze community is bigger in 1.31: yeah, some of usa players moved already on 1.32, but not sure about europe scene. i will check 1.32 freeze, but no plans of moving soon.

cu, stema

i dunno whats punkbuste and i dunno if i can play on 1.32 so if u all do decide to move to there i prob stay here

1.32 is much more intractive but its more for campers and most of the games i cant join cause i dont have the right pk files

@ Missy: Punkbuster is a prg mde to stop cheaters and for some games *inc q3* prevent peeps from using fke cd keys..meaning ull have to buy the game....So if u brought urself this game orig from wrapper ur fine and good to go...but if u got it from a dload or whatever im afraid 1.32 is not for u

@ Mad Jak:: Not the right pk files? If so just do /cl_allowdownload 1 b4 u connect...If u mean smthin to do with things that only an orig quake can produce then..wellm got a bit of a w8 on ur hands...


Oki, after ive done everything on my god damn huge list to do..*life + quake stuff = :o amount* ill work on a way to haxxor pb for peeps without keys...until then, pyl hrd in 1.31

D0Lph1N aka Bu11eT wanna stay in 1.31

Maybe Stema could make a poll and ask

Do you want to stay in 1.31?

No!

Yes!

 

For me it's not a matter of will - I just have no valid ck-key, so I can't move to 1.32.

So: vote no

if i had a cd key i would vote yes cause i like punkbuster i hate those cheating biches and i have te feeling that everyday there come more of those fuckers, with punkbuster that would be over. but i don't have a key so i vote NO

lol...feel like the only 1 in freeze with a genuine cd key

Lol let's create a cheating-death for quake 3 freeze, we got the brains of cheeetos, mathew and many others and ofcourse my looks so lets Just Do It (sorry Nike©)

LoLo at the looks thing

'A cheating death for quake 3 freeze' -- Donno what you meant by this?? You mean like what punkbuster does?...Hmm wouldn't mind that, but must get all my other projs/works finned first lol

But I'll admit to wanting to do smthin similar to this for quite some time now -- Stop cheaters who can't find a cheat that works in pb comming to us...Would be gr8, but Server must use it, + client (player) which would cause many peeps probs....

Anyway donno if that's even what you meant yet, so I won't go into detail about it

i think making an anti hack program is too hard,

-1st u would have to have some knowledge of the hack, wat programming language used and the source code,

-then u wud have to make all the clients send info on if they are using a hack or somet, i havent a clue on how 2 do this, it wud require quake 3 source code, how it connects clients to the server, just too complicated

-an update feature, incase new hacks get around it.

just to save time and effort(dont have much) to make it easier, hack punkbuster and make it work for 1.31

Hmm yeah, that's what makes it difficult...Which is what I like hehe

neway...who said punkbuster didn't work in 1.31? Our only problem is that people (1) May not have it and therefore be kicked...(2) must find the cmd to stop it kicking people with fake cdkeys...(3) stema must keep the server updated manually if he was to decide to put it on, which gets boring

Hmm well a lil off topic here (not much) but I remember reading smthin on the web somewhere and talking with some guy in irc (now i think back must've been an 0gc plyr) that there's work being made to combat pb (for cheaters) -- An auto updating cheater devise, it will have Ace Extension that r less visable, 0gc, wallhack and aimbot version of these...So pb really are going to have to get themselves in gear to prevent this or find a way to update twice as fast with the same accuracy in the blocks...But really whoever updates first, in theory, has the most chance? say pb updated, then the cheating devise, then pb, then the cheating devise..Very strange....

Hmm neway must go now -- Bbl

NIce idea's guys, lol lets collect signatures and send em to united admins (creators of cheating-death for cs) maybe they will work on anti-cheat quake too   

Maybe

Still need a couple things -- (1) The go ahead that Stema would put on serv + that peeps would like it to be on...

(as always) pressured for time here, so only a short post

I dont have very clear idea if pb is related to valid cd key check (pb uses cd key but not sure if pb does a validity check, i think its id master server that does it).

Neither i tried to use pb on a 1.31 server; megaborg told me he put off cdkey check for his 1.32serv, so i can ask him (maybe just not including id master server?). For sure pb is damned complicated!! i spent one hour to enter a 1.32 server cos of it was unable to autoupdate itsself and i was constantly kicked at every update failure!! damn!! 1 hour!!!

So we should understand if:

- there is a way to disable cd key validation (i heard somethig for unix servers)

- a way to enable punkbaster (i can test it) on 1.31 if first point fails, on 1.32 otherwise

cu, stema

It's deffo by pb m8, each cdkey is registered at id - then pb uses this cdkey to create its own guid *the part im workin out on how to edit manually, hehehe*...The guid is then registered at id and pb keeps checking through it all...So really I guess, now looking at what I've said, it's a bit of both

I've also emailed pb creators, so double way win hehe

hehe, for future reference just type /pb_webupdate in a serv on spec mode

Both are do-able, putting pb on really isn't the problem...Can easily again ask the creators -- Just finding the cmd will take perhaps some time

well for pb updating i tried everything!! pbweb (always same htm-to-bin conversion failure!!!), security 0, manual web download, other users pb files and nothing!!!! lol i was in a server with many of wars player (uber, z1 etc)...just the time to say "i hate punkbbuster"" and pluf!!! kicked!! do u think pb can feel my mood against him? lool

and then, suddenly, it updates its self after kickme to spectators!! first linux servers files then windows!!! boh!!! anyway i sitll hate it!!

maybe i could open a thread about 1.32 pointrelease... i was so curious hearing of many friends 1.31 moving, so i wanted to try it by myself! well i can say im very disappointed for now!! but this is another argument!! go go 1.31 freeze go!!

stema

Yeah, pb is a very evil prog in some ways

God, I nearly put myself into another job spot lol Was gonna say 'I'll look into it' --- Although I will after all jobs

pb + 1.32 will all evolve to be better and easier in time, just gotta wait it out

tbh this was the best server ever lol