Europe Extreme Elite

Hi guys!

Our community needs community servers.

For the moment, the ZS-clan servers are de-facto community servers.
I suggest to donate with our clans to have common community servers.

This servers are required to be placed in western europe, cause in that case all players would have nearly the same pings.

What do you think?

my server should be back in holland ( or germany, dunno where i have free machine ) in a week or two.

Hey, despite I live in Moscow, I sure that I'm able to rent a server in europe.
Advise me, please, several providers and tell how much does it cost?

french servers are best imo, even pl ppl have 40/50 ping. Remember sari or moyse servers.

Moyse server is online since a long time, but Moyse changes the name. It is called now "Fr pub" but i am never (or rarely) seeing good players on this server. It s the server where i have my best ping and i like it.

That's true, i'm quite busy at the moment but i can give to Psylle or Svarog the Rconpassword and/or a shell acces to change the configuration. Just let me know.

<< pro q3 shell user

im taking care about most servers here - just tell me if u need help

Well tiscali network routers are sometimes shitty and gets my ping up to 80ms (average) in this french server.

Anyway here's the route i have to this server

 1  Server (192.168.0.1)  0.098 ms  0.084 ms  0.092 ms <-- My router
 2  cnet-102.ac.triera.net (213.161.8.1)  6.074 ms  5.225 ms  7.638 ms
 3  cartman-ve-1.ip.triera.net (213.161.2.3)  7.715 ms  6.428 ms  7.111 ms
 4  10ge-e1-1.vie.ip.triera.net (213.161.2.21  8.749 ms  8.295 ms  7.937 ms
 5  62.153.203.25 (62.153.203.25)  12.571 ms  11.606 ms  20.829 ms
 6  f-ea3.F.DE.net.DTAG.DE (62.154.17.50)  26.552 ms  26.287 ms  26.228 ms
 7  so-1-0-3.fra10.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.64.41)  26.005 ms  31.968 ms  30.154 ms
 8  so-1-0-0.fra40.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.82.85)  26.567 ms  27.835 ms  27.203 ms
 9  servercrew-gw-ancotel.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.86.42)  29.799 ms  29.630 ms  29.846 ms
10  89.106.65.206 (89.106.65.206)  28.037 ms  27.909 ms  27.422 ms

 

Here's mine ping to zs quake3 server (graph):

http://www.netsky.org:8005/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=Other.HOD

Here's my local network:

http://www.netsky.org/Topology.htm

 

If you click on the icon or pc name you'll get traffic statistics

If you click on IP Address of pc you'll get responses in local network (ping)

How many braincells does it really fit inside your head SpC?

Advanced stuff : D

Too many.

Sometimes i get the feeling my brain has too much information.

lol =)

a badass brother called Mark.

Why are the servers unpure ?

Sometimes i get the feeling someone is allways wallhacking ...etc

they're unpure for doomy and zs to use osp :]

unpure for my pr0h4x!

it's still strange =P

What do you call the "new efreeze" ?

let's wait for final version... dont do mess

evolution Told :

they're unpure for doomy and zs to use osp :]

Posted on 29 March 2007 at 10:04:05

Then he's allready cheating because OSP is not standard quake and you can't just color enemys green that's not defined in quake3 so anything that's not defined in quake3 or eFreeze is cheating.

yeah damn hakercs omg.

fel to stoned going to bed bi :>

cant you redefine pure efreeze paks with colored skins?

I'm on my way to finish that team/enemy skins. Just few days left (2 or 3).

Like Adam said, i'm gonna wait for the final version


And btw, I put the stats back for my server. They are updated hourly and cleared monthly (efreeze.ift.cx).

plz every1 that is paying for a server read this and answere EDIT: also the others do so !

shortys servers are going offline now. zs root will go off in june. duno about the other servers but: all that can pay only a few € are very welcome. guess if enough do that we can pay for a community root server. the point is: the clans of donating players get a training server on it or how to honor it ? for sure we need to have fixed fraggednation servers running (or clanbase if we change to that ?) then we could have 1 or 2 18 - 24 ppl publics and 1 or 2 smaller onesl. 12 players maybe? we also should make a common server cfg then which runs on all the hosted servers . k thats point 1.

the harder thing is: who takes the part of finding the server and paying for it ? you are all welcome to apply for this job <3.

last point: if all have access it will be a mess so i guess we should fix up admins before. my suggestion is to have those with most experience which means that it should be adam, moyse, shorty, stema, me or so?

k last point but as i guess also 1 of the most important points: which provider? and where should it be situated? i personally like german servers the most but guess thats normal as they are close to me and i get < 40 pings there. well i guess every1 that is interested in getting this community server should come up with some providers.

as there should be a lot of servers running at the same time i guess it shouldnt just be about a low prize (as long as enough of agree to pay for it) but more about the quality -> good hardware and some good connection. also i guess it shouldnt be server4you.de for example coz its a mass provider and there are lots of lag periods

tell me whatever comes to you mind about it and maybe send a pm if you wanna be the 1 taking the organization part :P

tc and lots of kisses <3

 doomy

damn what a mess :P wasnt concentrating on what i was typing :S reminds me of a Sve post somehow. well think the main point is said and thats all i wanted get a community server finally! then all those cfg changes etc. are np anymore. also we can have enough admins to ban haXorZ forever :P. hope for lots of donators im at it for sure. kthxbi

I'm in. What paying method will be used? Some kind of webmoney? Or bankin transfers? In both cases the account requisites are required. And some1 who will take this job for maintaining the account for the community server.

Regarding the location of the community servers. Maybe there's an essence to rent two servers in different locations to have a better choice of a battlefield. One serv closer to the west, and the other one closer to the east. Who can provide some ping statistics of servers located in different countries with names and pings?

Hmmm and the settings wont fit me imo, i would have participate too but i wanna be admin and decide of settings so i guess ill set up my own server. Gl.

Several clans have their own servers. There they can set all the settings they like. But, imho we need the unified server settings for ladders, clanbase etc. These unified settings shall be set on the community server(s).

ive checked out monsterserver.de for a while now. guess the servers are relyable really but there are some lil ping jumps once in a while (less than 1 sec tho so they dont matter much). another 1 i personally see as a good server is valueserver.de or as i used to have sheepserv.de. but in any case we need some admin that keeps an eye on the servers (adam?) and reboots the root once in a while. well so what you guess ? german servers shall be good for nearly every1 (highest pings on a good connection will be for russian clans --> 60 - 70). i guess we either get 1 german and 1 french server if we get 2? pings on roots that are any further in eastern europe give all central / western euro players 90+ pings. well if you have an ip to ping just put it up here .

test ips:
monsterserver.de: 82.96.102.12
sheepserv.de: 89.106.65.206
teamplay.de: no test ip but still sounds really good and the prizes are fair
topgameserver.de: 81.209.167.35

well thats all i personally found concerning nice and fair providers :P. if you got anything else to add plz do so and try to ping those ips and post your pings here .

i ping all of those with around the same result which lets me play with 33 - 39 ping. gl to you with finding more providers

im busy in this month but i should have free time in next one

ah and my server should be back soon. Dunno in which location, but i'll try find some NL/DE

DooMDirK Told :

ive checked out monsterserver.de for a while now. guess the servers are relyable really but there are some lil ping jumps once in a while (less than 1 sec tho so they dont matter much). another 1 i personally see as a good server is valueserver.de or as i used to have sheepserv.de. but in any case we need some admin that keeps an eye on the servers (adam?) and reboots the root once in a while. well so what you guess ? german servers shall be good for nearly every1 (highest pings on a good connection will be for russian clans --> 60 - 70). i guess we either get 1 german and 1 french server if we get 2? pings on roots that are any further in eastern europe give all central / western euro players 90+ pings. well if you have an ip to ping just put it up here .

test ips:
monsterserver.de: 82.96.102.12
sheepserv.de: 89.106.65.206
teamplay.de: no test ip but still sounds really good and the prizes are fair
topgameserver.de: 81.209.167.35

well thats all i personally found concerning nice and fair providers :P. if you got anything else to add plz do so and try to ping those ips and post your pings here .

i ping all of those with around the same result which lets me play with 33 - 39 ping. gl to you with finding more providers

On monster.de and sheepserv.de i've got a 53-55 ms ping. On topgameserver.de i've got about 43 ms.

For me in moscow the best ping is provided by sheepserv.de (55-60), others provide ping 60-65.

What kind of rent is gonna be used: a root/dedicated server or a game/quake server? I'm able to remotely administrate linux. The server of my clan (N3) is dedicated and it is under my administration. I made all the features there: several quake servers, web-server, mysql server, ftp server, teamspeak, etc. Also, I created a bunch of scripts for automated updating of game statistics.

web/mysql/ftp servers arent big problem same as cron scripts ( or smth ) to update q3 server stats

IMO we should have a few ppl to 'guard' q3 servers, cause no one of us can be online 24/7

adam*pl Told :

web/mysql/ftp servers arent big problem

IMO we should have a few ppl to 'guard' q3 servers, cause no one of us can be online 24/7

That's true


There is also dedicated server at dedibox (hosted by Free.fr) (try to ping 88.191.21.1) and kimsufi (hosted by OVH) (try to ping 213.251.174.54). Both are located in Paris.

im writing this message 4 time, cause of laptop -_-'

 

ovh.com - i heard they are cheating on connection speed

dedibox.fr - i heard they have good low prices, but if u want buy one, u must be from france

adam*pl Told :

im writing this message 4 time, cause of laptop -_-'

ovh.com - i heard they are cheating on connection speed

dedibox.fr - i heard they have good low prices, but if u want buy one, u must be from france

In fact, in the beginning of kimsufi the connection speed was 10mbits full duplex but now it 100 mbits full duplex. Ovh has good peering (see www.ovh.net).

For dedibox you are right, but there is several french ppl here

k i got this offer from sheepserv.de:

dual intel xeon 2x 3ghz
3072 mb ddr2 ram
80 gb s-ata
traffic flat
from 99 euro / month

the others put their servers on the hompages anyways. the point is: now i get some lags on the servers (like most german servers) coz they are working on some connections / access points / routing in frankfurt .. tuesday ill get more news on this. first of all we still need a list of people paying for a server and then we can decide which root we take.

i can tell for sure:
doomy
shorty
will pay.

well if adams server pwnz i guess we can use that 1 tho . if we need more we can get back to this offer ... what you think ? what are the prizes on dedibox ? (altho i have 65 ping on those :/)

tc
doomy

what paying method sheepserv.de uses?

can chose that yourself .. sort of everything possible afaik. got the msn of head admin so can fix that all

Can someone try the server I launched on a kimsufi box ? it's called InstaFrag European Efreeze NoHook Server (213.251.132.12:27960).

Just tell me how it runs. It won't stay forever, this is just a test.

on-topic (=P):
**I would like to make a good public server or 2 with a few other Dutch people (or close to Holland) and share the costs. I’m willing to donate as well ^^, PM me if u are intrested**





For the old post plz go to the topic! I thought it might be better to make a new topic for it

Ciao

This is slightly off-top. But I like the idea.

Need to count not frags/thaws but usefullness of that or other action. Like if you kill the first enemy - 1 point. But if you kill the last enemy which was thawing his mate - 5 point, and etc.

And vice-versa, if you thaw a mate when all the rest are active - 1 point, and if you are the last active and you thaw a mate - 5 points.

It will learn ppl the importance of that or another moment.

Impiro - respect for the idea.

hehe thnx ye that might balance it a bit more...but a bonus for loads of thaws also is good and also a title for it so peopel will give as much credit to thawing as fragging thnx for the reply

www.xg1.net

guess this provider isnt bad concerning its connection and most of all its easy to use and you can pay just for the time you need the server. just some1 with a paypal account or a credit card has to do it :P. also you just go register, buy credits in any way and run the server until the credits are gone :P. or pay it per month (its just 50 cents per slot and month) think about it

doomy

q3_s7.exs2.kom.pl:27960 << check it!

atrey Told :

This is slightly off-top. But I like the idea.

Need to count not frags/thaws but usefullness of that or other action. Like if you kill the first enemy - 1 point. But if you kill the last enemy which was thawing his mate - 5 point, and etc.

And vice-versa, if you thaw a mate when all the rest are active - 1 point, and if you are the last active and you thaw a mate - 5 points.

It will learn ppl the importance of that or another moment.

Impiro - respect for the idea.

Posted on 13 April 2007 at 17:47:04

 

What about making a new bar: "Useful", 1 point for a normal frag, 1 for a thaw, 2 for a thawing frag, 3 for the last frag. In my opinion the normal scoreboard is already too modified; I wouldn't give 1 point for a thaw personally, because a lot of thaws don't require any kind of skill... so why reward it in the personal score?

Thats not my opinion, thawing is a risk to be fragged by not moving so requires skill.

I said:

because a lot of thaws don't require any kind of skill...

I know it requires skill when someone is shooting at you, but there are a lot of thaws being made without that, and those do not require any skill... just thawtime.

 

Thawing 0.5 and normal kill 1 point. Problem solved

you wanna steal the thaw-god his crown? no way!

mr. lyor, it also requires no skill to point his crosshair on a spawnpoint, but you get a point. so a thaw may not need much skill when noone is around, but often you got shot in the back - or - see it as you can't frag thus get no point while standing beside the thaw.

conclusion: 1 point for a thaw is fine

After 6 pages, finally, we decided the actual gameplay is the good one =pp

pSylle Told :

After 6 pages, finally, we decided the actual gameplay is the good one =pp

Posted on 05 May 2007 at 02:48:30


What i shame, i was really looking forward for some changes in gameplay ;-)

absinthe Told :

you wanna steal the thaw-god his crown? no way!

mr. lyor, it also requires no skill to point his crosshair on a spawnpoint, but you get a point. so a thaw may not need much skill when noone is around, but often you got shot in the back - or - see it as you can't frag thus get no point while standing beside the thaw.

conclusion: 1 point for a thaw is fine

Posted on 04 May 2007 at 10:01:34

Mr. Andi, why doesn't it require skill to point your crosshair on a spawnpoint?

Other than thawing an unguarded thaw, you will actually have to:

- Aim it to a certain point

- Time your shot - they mostly got some spawnprotection

- Do not get shot by the spawning enemy, since he doesn't have any holdback on his gun during the spawnprotectiontime, and you do. He is in favour.

- Hit him!

Now I'm not saying such a shot is equal to any other shot when both players are in motion, but it does require skill and the thaw I have in mind does not.

I'm not trying to steal you your crown, and I'm just making a suggestion from my point of view.

//Lee

"I'm not trying to steal you your crown, and I'm just making a suggestion from my point of view."

that's ok, that's what forums are for making a bit fun myself. still I worked hard on my thawing skillz, so I am just for the fact that 1 thaw is 1 point - another liitle argument. if people do not consider thawing as useful to get a good score, less people will thaw, more people will be just waiting frozen. it lowers the average fun of the game to more players, does it not?

 

If such a community server was launched, how would the settings be decided?

Having supported the zS server, I must point out that we did have problems to find an agreement over a single team. What would it be for a whole community?

It seems some people do not like hook at all, while others cant even imagine playing without hook. Because of this, people already experience lots of settings changes going from one server to another, or even going to the same server but with 2 days interval.

If such community server happens, its settings must be decided before any kind of investment, imho.

 

if im not wrong, there was a community server, but shiva didnt post info about it.

settings are old - freezeinstaunlagged style